colinmce Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 I have never quite got around to getting these because I just don't know which source is best, or if there is such a thing as a definitive source for this stuff. Lonehill put out a CD collecting all of it, but this is hard to get ahold of now. Suggestions? Quote
colinmce Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Posted May 3, 2012 Hell, while we're at it can we untangle the European live recordings, too? What all is there, what CDs are duplications, etc. I've always been remarkably confused by this. Quote
J.A.W. Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) These 1962 and 1963 recordings weren't even in the public domain in the European Union when Lonehill released them; maybe they were in Andorra, where Lonehill is officially based. Anyway, I have the 2 Fuel 2000 (that's the name of the label) CDs that were released by Universal in 2001 and 2002, Conversations and Iron Man. They were licensed from the owners of the rights. Just checked Amazon U.S. and U.K., but they seem to have vanished. Edited May 3, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote
colinmce Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Posted May 3, 2012 Huh, I didn't realize they even had stable owners. Were they just licensed all over the place? Everest and Vee-Jay put them out in the 1960s. Quote
Pete C Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 I originally had the Iron Man LP on Douglas Records and part of the other album on the Everest Archive of Folk & Jazz, under Dolphy's name but actually including tracks by Cannonball & Jug. Quote
JSngry Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 Released on Casablanca (sic). Complete. LP. Worth looking for. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) Conversations first issued on Alan Douglas' FM label. The original issue of Iron Man on Douglas was gold. This is how I first got them. I now have a boxed version of the 2 Fuel 2000 cds titled This Is. Edited May 3, 2012 by Chuck Nessa Quote
JETman Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 Our friend Mr. Pujol put out cd versions, with the original covers contained in Chuck's post, 3 or 4 years ago. Quote
J.A.W. Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 I now have a boxed version of the 2 Fuel 2000 cds titled This Is. Amazon U.S. Amazon U.K. Quote
Head Man Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 Everything on the Lonehill Jazz "Complete Memorial Album Sessions" is now available on a couple of Jazz World releases at a pretty cheap price on Amazon: I suspect they're just copies of the Lonehill Jazz release. Quote
jeffcrom Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 I regretted it almost instantly when I sold my Douglas 2-LP set. I think I was thinking about how nice it would be to program the tracks of the CDs in different ways - to get all the quintet tracks together, for instance. I replaced the records with the separate CDs of Iron Man and Conversations that came out in 2001/2002 on Fuel 2000/Varese Sarabande. They sound pretty good and purport to be legally licensed - I hope that's true. Quote
J.A.W. Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 Everything on the Lonehill Jazz "Complete Memorial Album Sessions" is now available on a couple of Jazz World releases at a pretty cheap price on Amazon: I suspect they're just copies of the Lonehill Jazz release. The Lonehill itself was a copy, as they didn't have access to the original sources. Quote
sidewinder Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) I've still got my old 70s DJM LP of this music - 'Eric Dolphy Memorial Album'. Must dig it out ! Edited May 3, 2012 by sidewinder Quote
Pete C Posted May 3, 2012 Report Posted May 3, 2012 I think I was thinking about how nice it would be to program the tracks of the CDs in different ways - to get all the quintet tracks together, for instance. Ah, maybe I'll play with that on Spotify... Quote
Late Posted May 4, 2012 Report Posted May 4, 2012 Dolphy's solo on the track "Iron Man" is probably my very favorite Dolphy (studio) solo. Quote
brownie Posted May 4, 2012 Report Posted May 4, 2012 Conversations first issued on Alan Douglas' FM label. The original issue of Iron Man on Douglas was gold. Still have those two originals. FM cover (non-laminated) was designed by Frank Gauna The Douglas vinyl had laminated front and back covers! Both carried the same photo of Dolphy on their back covers. The one that was on the front of the Douglas LP. Quote
jazzbo Posted May 10, 2012 Report Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) I used to have the Jitterbug Waltz two lp set, that was my first Dolphy outside of Mingus recordings. Now I have the two cd box set that Chuck has. Just revisited it this week. Very vivid sound. Edited May 10, 2012 by jazzbo Quote
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