Free jazz that is more serene than jarring

[David Ayers]

Don't the Ornette Atlantics fit the bill?

[Leeway]

I don't think anyone mentioned any of the Bill Dixon Black Saint/Soul Note discs. The Cam Jazz box would be a good idea.

Happy to hear that that John Stevens SME disc is coming out on Emanem. Still hoping and waiting for "Karyobin" to get a reissue.

[Joe]

Ornette and Haden SOAPSUDS SOAPSUDS

George Lewis' HOMAGE TO CHARLES PARKER... a "Penguin crown" record, and everyone plays wonderfully on it, but, IMO Douglas Ewart's improvising here is heroic

[Rooster_Ties]

Nearly all of Andrew Hill's solo piano recordings -- the Select, and two or three other albums -- would seem to fit into this category, IMHO.

And Hill's piano-trio work too, come to think of it -- or a lot of it, anyway.

Including a few one-off "trio only" tracks from his various Blue Notes (63-66) where the horn(s) sat out, along with a handful of post-BN albums.

Also much of Smokesstack (with two bass players, and no horns), and Judgement! (no horns, piano trio plus Bobby Hutcherson) -- would qualify here.

Pretty much anything with or by Hill, without horns probably qualifies.

[Scott Dolan]

well hey, Dolphy did have a tune by that name - beautiful one at that.

Another great one from him that would qualify as serene was Music Matador. That's actually one of my all time favorite Jazz tunes.

[colinmce]

Happy to hear that that John Stevens SME disc is coming out on Emanem. Still hoping and waiting for "Karyobin" to get a reissue.

On the site MD said it is "awaiting reissue". Not sure if that means through him or just in general. Unfortunately it's probably the latter.

[ornette]

Recently listened to this for the first time in many years - very serene.

[AndrewHill]

Up listening to heiner stadler's jazz alchemy n what a cast: r. Davis, workman, crispell, et al. This is amazing shit. Also on tomato, Sam rivers's waves another amazing date , all listenable if u will . Excuse me if these have been mentioned, writing late n crossed my mind.

[clifford_thornton]

welcome back!

[AndrewHill]

Thx Clifford

[SMB1968]

Any of the albums by Kartet. Paris-based label Dark Tree Records has only released 4 cds, but they would also fit the bill.

Scott

[AndrewHill]

Nearly all of Andrew Hill's solo piano recordings -- the Select, and two or three other albums -- would seem to fit into this category, IMHO.

And Hill's piano-trio work too, come to think of it -- or a lot of it, anyway.

Including a few one-off "trio only" tracks from his various Blue Notes (63-66) where the horn(s) sat out, along with a handful of post-BN albums.

Also much of Smokesstack (with two bass players, and no horns), and Judgement! (no horns, piano trio plus Bobby Hutcherson) -- would qualify here.

Pretty much anything with or by Hill, without horns probably qualifies.[/quote

Hill period any period. I love the chaos he created in 65 espicially with compulsion

[clifford_thornton]

Compulsion is a weird one. Never been sure whether or not I "liked" it but it's an interesting date and I'm glad it was recorded/released. Andrew!!! is very fine.

I like Strange Serenade (w/ Silva & Waits) a lot, as well as the Steeplechase trio (the name of which I'm forgetting). And the ensemble set that Freedom put out is cool too.

[colinmce]

The last time I listened to Compulsion! it kind of blew my mind. I didn't love it in the past but it sounded damn good. There was one little stretch that if heard in isolation could've easily passed as Brotzmann/Van Hove/Bennink ca. 1974. Much less cluttered and way more far out than I remembered.

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, that might be right - I doubt I've listened to it in the last 5-7 years.

(and I don't have Chuck or Larry's memory)

[Steve Reynolds]

yeah, that might be right - I doubt I've listened to it in the last 5-7 years.

(and I don't have Chuck or Larry's memory)

I havn't heard it in over 10 years but I do remember it being pretty out there.

I have a better memory for portions of shows from 12-15 years ago. They also come and go - having only heard the concerts once, the memories are vivid yet not detailed.

[clifford_thornton]

right, same here - the experience of seeing someone or hearing someone in person is very different than on record.

[Chuck Nessa]

I don't have Chuck's memory anymore. :-)

Compulsion blew me a way when issued and still impresses today. Andrew and Joe Chambers hooking up is a big part of it.

[king ubu]

Joe Chambers - one of the unsung heroes of the Blue Note avantgarde!

[JSngry]

Hell, one of the unsung heroes of American music, period. This is slowly dawning on me in full force, one of those things that is so obvious that you don't even think about it, but when you finally do, DOH!

[Chuck Nessa]

There you go!

He also "made" Mode for Joe". I remember this playing and Bill Dixon wanted to know who the drummer was.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Chuck Nessa

[colinmce]

Yep. Side two of Components!

[clifford_thornton]

There you go!

He also "made" Mode for Joe". I remember this playing and Bill Dixon wanted to know who the drummer was.

Mode for Joe is an excellent record; much love for Joe Chambers here (with an admitted uncertainty, as I already expressed, about some of the 1964-1966 BN avant-garde dates). I think a weekend spin of Compulsion is in order.

[JSngry]

Find time for...

[StarThrower]