HutchFan Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Dave Liebman & Richie Beirach - Unspoken (Outnote, 2011) Quote
paul secor Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Fletcher Henderson: Yeah Man! (Hep) Edited January 25, 2019 by paul secor Quote
soulpope Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Dave Liebman & Richie Beirach - Unspoken (Outnote, 2011) Good one .... Quote
Gheorghe Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, paul secor said: Fletcher Henderson: Yeah Man! (Hep) It´s strange but maybe typical for my generation, that I only heard Yeah Man ! and other Fletcher Henderson stuff played by Sun Ra Arkestra. I know this is the wrong way to get in touch with it (like I only heard "Tiger Rag" on that 1947 Bands for Bonds with Bird and Diz and Lennie) . It´s only so that whenever I say I should try some traditional jazz listening, I say later baby not today....., Quote
mikeweil Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Gheorghe said: It´s strange but maybe typical for my generation, that I only heard Yeah Man ! and other Fletcher Henderson stuff played by Sun Ra Arkestra. I know this is the wrong way to get in touch with it (like I only heard "Tiger Rag" on that 1947 Bands for Bonds with Bird and Diz and Lennie) . It´s only so that whenever I say I should try some traditional jazz listening, I say later baby not today....., They sure were hard to come by - I remember wanting to hear Fletcher Hendrson recordings back in the 1970's after reading about them, and there was noting available until French CBS repressed "A Study In Frustration". I still have that 4 LP box. Quote
sidewinder Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Good old Henri Renaud ! I still have an LP set of that Henderson too. Edited January 25, 2019 by sidewinder Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Gheorghe said: It´s strange but maybe typical for my generation, that I only heard Yeah Man ! and other Fletcher Henderson stuff played by Sun Ra Arkestra. I know this is the wrong way to get in touch with it (like I only heard "Tiger Rag" on that 1947 Bands for Bonds with Bird and Diz and Lennie) . It´s only so that whenever I say I should try some traditional jazz listening, I say later baby not today....., I doubt this was typical for "our" generation. It all depends on what style of jazz struck you initially (e.g. through radio) and what you preferred to stay with thereafter. I knew I had no big problems stacking up on the pre-50s styles of jazz (funds permitting), but then the choice was easy in those mid-70s, with jazz rock/fusion on the one hand and avantgarde/free on the other being touted all over the place as what "jazz" (per se) was (supposed to be) all about (and "dixieland" thrown in for the easier listening habits within jazz) you just HAD to go exploring and searching extensively for what immediately appealed to you MORE, i.e. swing in my case (and bop very soon after). And once you started digging you did find stuff. 30s Fletcher Henderson was indeed a bit difficult to get hold of at that time, though. 20s Henderson was easier. Quote
Gheorghe Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Big Beat Steve said: I doubt this was typical for "our" generation. It all depends on what style of jazz struck you initially (e.g. through radio) and what you preferred to stay with thereafter. I knew I had no big problems stacking up on the pre-50s styles of jazz (funds permitting), but then the choice was easy in those mid-70s, with jazz rock/fusion on the one hand and avantgarde/free on the other being touted all over the place as what "jazz" (per se) was (supposed to be) all about (and "dixieland" thrown in for the easier listening habits within jazz) you just HAD to go exploring and searching extensively for what immediately appealed to you MORE, i.e. swing in my case (and bop very soon after). And once you started digging you did find stuff. 30s Fletcher Henderson was indeed a bit difficult to get hold of at that time, though. 20s Henderson was easier. Very interesting thoughts and a lot of truth in it. In my case I think that maybe the first "jazz" I may have heard through radio may have been some old styled Dixieland and it didn´t appeal to my tastes , and somehow I heard Miles Davis´ "Milestones" on a sampler that was titled "The Story of Jazz". and something happened and I had to say to myself, if this is also "jazz" I must get more of it, and so I bought Miles´ "Steaming" and that´s how it started. And reading that Bird was Miles´ first idol and so on I had to dig back to Bird and Bop and it appealed the same way to me as the midfifties "hardbop", and paying attention to Trane´s solos it became searching after Trane´s stuff into the 60, and from Trane to Ornette, and then (it was the mid 70´s ). Somehow everything from Midforties Bop to late 60´s "New Thing" seemed to appeal to me, and it is much harder for me to dig more into the past. I heard, that japanese fans have Similar tastes. They collect everything starting from bop to hardbop to post bop and so on and there seems to be a lesser audience for earlier styles. Quote
optatio Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 FREDDIE HUBBARD: OPEN SESAME. BLUE NOTE CDP 7 84040 2 [1988] Quote
soulpope Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, optatio said: FREDDIE HUBBARD: OPEN SESAME. BLUE NOTE CDP 7 84040 2 [1988] Tina Brooks (!!) .... Quote
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soulpope Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, paul secor said: I`m always surprised, how much this platter is part of my DNA .... Quote
paul secor Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, soulpope said: I`m always surprised, how much this platter is part of my DNA .... I actually meant to give a , but works too. Quote
soulpope Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, paul secor said: I actually meant to give a , but works too. Definitely ... the music transports a lot of joy.... Quote
JSngry Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Posted January 25, 2019 I knew a guy from Houston (4th Ward iirc), my age, who when he first heard Ike (that album) and saw the cover, had an immediate moment of recognition of Ike as "one of those pool hall guys". Still love that image, Ike as a pool hall guy, seems to me that there's no way in hell for that to be anything other than totally true! Quote
soulpope Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, JSngry said: I knew a guy from Houston (4th Ward iirc), my age, who when he first heard Ike (that album) and saw the cover, had an immediate moment of recognition of Ike as "one of those pool hall guys". Still love that image, Ike as a pool hall guy, seems to me that there's no way in hell for that to be anything other than totally true! Excuse my ignorance - what is the meaning of" pool hall guy" in this context ....? Quote
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HutchFan Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) More from "The Liebrach": Dave Liebman & Richie Beirach - The Duo Live: 1976-1990 (Vaju Productions) Liebman self-released this set, an expanded version of the duo recordings on their Mosaic Select set. What was a single disc in the Mosaic set amounts to 4 hours of music here. ... I'm now listening to cuts from '76 recorded at the Keystone Korner. Absolutely brilliant music, imho. 1 hour ago, ghost of miles said: 👍 ghost, do the liner notes explain the knot on Dolphy's forehead in that photograph? Just wondering... Edited January 25, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
ghost of miles Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, HutchFan said: More from "The Liebrach": Dave Liebman & Richie Beirach - The Duo Live: 1976-1990 (Vaju Productions) Liebman self-released this set, an expanded version of the duo recordings on their Mosaic Select set. What was a single disc in the Mosaic set amounts to 4 hours of music here. ... I'm now listening to cuts from '76 recorded at the Keystone Korner. Absolutely brilliant music, imho. ghost, do the liner notes explain the knot on Dolphy's forehead in that photograph? Just wondering... No, but I've read mention of it elsewhere--that Monk told him not to get it removed, that it was his "knowledge bump." Iirc Dolphy actually did have it removed, not long before he died. Quote
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