Rabshakeh Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mhatta said: A good one. I think Jimmy Forrest is terribly underrated. This is my favorite Forrest. It's interesting that Forrest rarely played "Night Train" live except this... What I find most interesting about the version of Night Train on this is how swaggering and mean it sounds. A totally different song to the hooky and hokey Oscar Peterson version. Now playing: Oliver Lake Featuring FLUX Quartet – Right Up On (Passin Thru, 2017) Oliver Lake with a string quartet. It is interesting to hear how Lake has adapted his normally very characteristic playing for the context. I would certainly not have guessed who was playing in a blindfold test. Edited March 23, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 16 hours ago, JSngry said: There's a lot there...not the least of which is almost moving the Louvin Brothers to Jamaica. Do you think that anybody had any idea about any of that? Same thing with this one and "country rock" Debbe's voice touches me in a place I don't want to understand.... The effect of her vocals comes across as double tracking, at least the way I'm hearing it. Pretty cool idea to do that. I'd say that's reminiscent of Jamaican vocal duo stylings. That first song here sounds more Latin influenced than Jamaican at least to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, mhatta said: I think Jimmy Forrest is terribly underrated. I agree! 24 minutes ago, mhatta said: This is my favorite Forrest. It's my favorite Forrest too. 25 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: What I find most interesting about the version of Night Train on this is how swaggering and mean it sounds. A totally different song to the hooky and hokey Oscar Peterson version. You're right: Oscar's version is very different -- but I still like his take on the tune. Night Train is probably the Peterson trio album that I pull from the shelf most often. That said, I know that Oscar Peterson talk is dangerous territory! Like uttering the word "Marsalis," it usually invokes embittered grumblings -- both pro and con -- amongst us forum environs. So, with that, I bow out!!! Less controversially, I'm listening to Jimmy Rowles -- with bassist Michael Moore: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: The effect of her vocals comes across as double tracking, at least the way I'm hearing it. I don't think so...she just has a really husky, deeper voice...if she was double-tracked, you'd hear a bit of intonation/phrasing clash, that almost always happens on unison double-tracking. I'm just fascinated by this pair (at least on their better records, of which there are a few, but not many) because...I recognize the accents, if that makes any sense to anybody. Gene Thomas was from Palestine, Tx, and Debbe Neville was from...wherever voices like that come from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Dewey Redman - Living On The Edge (Black Saint, 1991) I'd like to know the story behind the track "Blues for JAM", a very straight and absorbing 1980s blues tune. It is a great tune, but it stands out. Was it intended as a 'bit' like Drudgery by Ayler? Feels like not. Edited March 23, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EKE BBB Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Certainly, one of the cds in my collection that I return to most frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, EKE BBB said: Certainly, one of the cds in my collection that I return to most frequently. My favourite Lester. Despite the fame of the prewar sides, these are the ones that best suit my taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BillF said: My favourite Lester. Despite the fame of the prewar sides, these are the ones that best suit my taste. Absolutely agree! Edited March 23, 2022 by porcy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Jackie & Roy "Bits & Pieces and Free & Easy - 1957 Sessions" Fresh Sounds cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, JSngry said: I don't think so...she just has a really husky, deeper voice...if she was double-tracked, you'd hear a bit of intonation/phrasing clash, that almost always happens on unison double-tracking. I'm just fascinated by this pair (at least on their better records, of which there are a few, but not many) because...I recognize the accents, if that makes any sense to anybody. Gene Thomas was from Palestine, Tx, and Debbe Neville was from...wherever voices like that come from... Oh, not saying it was technically double tracked, but with her singing along with Gene it gave the illusion of being double tracked. Which I guess is what all singing duos would sound like but their voices meshed really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Masahiko Sato - Palladium (Express, 1969) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Oh, not saying it was technically double tracked, but with her singing along with Gene it gave the illusion of being double tracked. Which I guess is what all singing duos would sound like but their voices meshed really well. They did indeed1 It's the type of thing that people claim is from the Everly Brothers, which yeah, sure, but they didn't invent it, if you know what I mean. But they did bring it into the Pop consciousness. I like looking out, but I like looking in as well. And those accents...that's what I heard before I realized that there was life past the cradle, so to speak. At least Gene's was...I was well into adolescence when I heard one even remotely like Debbe's...ot at least realized that I was hearing one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rabshakeh Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo (Fantasy, 1959) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikeweil Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 These guys swing! terrific sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 A Tommy Flanagan kinda night... Just finished: Now playing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 NP: Mario Bauzá & the Afro-Cuban Jazz Orchestra - 944 Columbus (Messidor, 1994) 4 hours ago, bresna said: Now playing: Good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soulpope Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, HutchFan said: NP: Mario Bauzá & the Afro-Cuban Jazz Orchestra - 944 Columbus (Messidor, 1994) Overlooked little gem .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) The Conte Candoli All Stars - Little Band Big Jazz (Crown, 1960) Black Art Jazz Collective - Ascenscion (High Note, 2020) Part of my ongoing project to fritter away the short time I was given on this earth by at least experiencing the work of Young Lions and co at different stages. It is hard to put a finger on why this record doesn’t work even on a craftsmanship / retro genre work level (with which I have no problem). Edited March 24, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rabshakeh Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Cameron Graves - Planetary Prince (Mack Avenue, 2017) It's a West Coast Get Down record from 2017 with Thundercat on bass and Kamasi Washington on tenor, but much more aligned with conventional jazz than I'd expected. Washington's actually pretty good in a 1970s sort of way here, without the theatrics of his leader works, and I like the trumpeter, Philip Dizack, who I don't otherwise know. Obvious 70s "spiritual jazz" influence on the soloists, but the tunes are a bit rockier and younger, and there's a nice interplay between Graves on acoustic piano and Thundercat on bass, so it's not just a throwback. Worth a do. Edited March 24, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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