mgraham333 Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 I saw something that I thought I would never see.... The Dave Liebman &Richie Beirach Select has CD TEXT. I loaded up the changer with discs from both new selects and looked down and saw "LOOKOUT FARM" on the display of my player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 (edited) Damn. I gotta get this Select. >Liebman Select< I used to believe Liebman was a flute player. After hearing the Liebman Select from the Mosaic site, I need this set. I now realize Liebman is not generally a flute player. I read, somewhere, that he did play flute at one time. I always buy the Mosaic Selects in numeric order. I have to purchase the Brookmeyer & Shank/Cooper first. Edited March 27, 2004 by wesbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie_boy Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 I got mine last night and I'm listening to DISC 1 now. I was suprised to see the text also. I'm enjoying it so far, although the sound quality is so-so on this disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 I'm enjoying it so far, although the sound quality is so-so on this disc. I've not yet heard the Liebman Select. I'm always curious to get opinions regarding the sound quality of a new release. How is the sound so-so? Is it distorted, over-powered, muffled, distant, electric, cloudy? Is the sound something that would make you change your decision to buy this set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie_boy Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 (edited) Hey I'm no audiophile by any means but based on your classifications, I'd say "distant/cloudy" would be the best fit. These are live recordings though, so my expectations weren't that high. I'd say the sound quality on Disc 1 is similar to the Lee Morgan - Live at the Lighthouse set - not great, but not terrible either. I need to listen to the other two discs to get the full picture. Edited March 27, 2004 by ralphie_boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 If those are live things, they were likely done on cassette, the norm for the time as far as musician's recording their gigs. You can work wonders on them with today's technology, but only to a point, and "distant/cloudy" is a distinct possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie_boy Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 I've listened to the rest of the set. Disc 2 which is all the Duets is a little better sound-quality wise and Disc 3 which is all of the Quest recordings, is actually very good. Musically, I really like the Quest recordings alot, but I'm undecided about the Lookout Farm selections. Something about that Fender Rhodes that bothers me. The Duets are pretty cool too. I think this is one of those sets that's gonna require repeated listenings in order to form an opinion one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgraham333 Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 I've listened to the rest of the set. Disc 2 which is all the Duets is a little better sound-quality wise and Disc 3 which is all of the Quest recordings, is actually very good. Musically, I really like the Quest recordings alot, but I'm undecided about the Lookout Farm selections. Something about that Fender Rhodes that bothers me. The Duets are pretty cool too. I think this is one of those sets that's gonna require repeated listenings in order to form an opinion one way or the other. Having made it all the way through the set a few times I would have to agree with ralphie_boy. Discs 2 and 3 have better sound quality. I think the duets are my favorites. The rest of the set will take a while to grow on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibes Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Slightly off topic, but how is "Beirach" pronounced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 "buy""rack" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 I've been listening to disc 1 a few times over the last couple of days , once my ears got used to where it was coming from I've really enjoyed it . Theres a really good version of Night in Tunisia on disc 1 . To these not so well informed ears Beirach sound a little like Electric Miles period Keith Jarrett , which is a compliment. I've played it a couple times in the car & it gets better with each passing minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Picked up mine from the delivery depot today (this time hidden in the depths of Sheffield's industrial regeneration area! They do pick their spots!). Have just listened to disc one and loved it. The sonic issue causes me no problems. I've heard far worse than this. The music I love. This is what jazz sounded like when I first got interested in it in the mid-70s. Personally I love the sound of the fender rhodes and can't get enough of it. I agree, Gary, with your Miles comparison. This is very much out of that period...but without the pronounced 'funk' that characterised a great deal of Miles' stuff from Jack Johnson onwards. Looking forward to disc 2 and 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMX Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Got my copy today. Probably listen to it in the car driving over to the Wayne Shorter concert tonight. Sometimes it just all comes together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clandy44 Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Music recorded in the 70s probably represents 1% of my collection. I have never liked the electric-electronic stuff, and most of my 70s music is from the likes of Braff, Benny Carter, Chet, Marion Brown, etc. But, I was curious about this set and have now listened to disc 1. While some of it is not to my liking, Liebman's work does catch my ear and I know that I will need to work harder to get into the groove that I am hearing. An unusual offering from Mosaic-nothing like it from the in or out-of-print catalogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 I took a chance on this one and it was well worth it. I'm still absorbing the first and third discs, saving the second for later -- my ears have been opened to yet another group of solid musicians. I will definitely have to look for the studio sessions, if they exist on cd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 I've not yet purchased the Liebman/Beirach Select. With that said, this seems like an 'odd' release for Mosaic. I don't know why. It just seems odd. Is this a McMaster remaster? I don't mean this as a complaint about McMaster. I like McMaster's work. The Mosaic discography doesn't say who remastered the Liebman/Beirach Select. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 There's a lengthy article about this set here: http://www.jazzviews.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Catching up with this... Liebman is sort of an on and off thing here. I've never turned into a big fan of his so far, but I have lots of respect for him and enjoy the hell out of some of his music. Recently got the Enja reissue of the Frank Tusa album that is more or less a Lookout Farm set, Father Time. To me, this music has quite some appeal, 70s or not, fender rhodes or not. It's honest, lively stuff that I assume might make some folks nervous, but hey, they're trying out some stuff, and to me it works just fine! The duets are interesting, lyrical... Beirach gets to the front here, and honestly I'm not sure I understand him yet. It's not boring however, rather it's just a "code", I guess, that I don't quite get yet. Haven't played the Quest disc yet, but I'll love that one, I'm sure! The Paris gig that was partially released as Redemption on hatOLOGY was pure magic, for instance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Lookout Farm definitely have their moments. I have heard live recordings from Space and Sunrise Studio in the 70s of various Liebman-Beirach aggregations and some of that shit is f'in heavy. Most of that vibe didn't make it onto the LPs, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I haven't heard any of the LPs except for the Frank Tusa "Father Time" (which, just in case, is now part of Enja's recent 24 bit digipack series). There are plenty of fine radio recordings around from '74/'75 - that stuff is smokin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Disc # 1 of this set is definitely not my taste. Later I'll listen to the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I dont like this set. Maybe I'll sell it. I have to think it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 Had this lying around for a long time, this weekend was the first time I actually listened to it. (Only the first disc thus far.) Very good music. Out of the late 60s / early 70s Coltrane acolytes, Liebman has always been one of the most engaging to my ears - less academic, more open minded than many of his peers. (Despite his negative comments about some avant-garde musicians…) This kind of aggressive rock-infused jazz is something I really like about that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 I recently replaced my long-gone copy of this set, it's a really enjoyable one that rewards repeated listens. If anyone is in the market, there's a very affordable one here: https://www.silverplatters.com/p/872065/liebman-beirach-mosaic-select-3-cd I would also highly recommend this release from last year, which seems to have flown under the radar. 5 discs: solos from each, a duo, a trio with Jack DeJohnette, and a very interesting quasi-electroacoustic quartet https://www.amazon.com/Empathy-Dave-Beirach-Richie-Liebman/dp/B096TN7FTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 Discogs seems to suggest Liebman plays tenor (and only tenor?) seemingly on all(?) of discs 1 & 2 (and his soprano playing is only on disc 3) — is that correct? Or maybe I’m reading it wrong, and he simply doesn’t play any tenor at all on disc 3, and he plays both on discs 1 & 2. https://www.discogs.com/release/3201343-David-Liebman-Richie-Beirach-Mosaic-Select-David-Liebman-Richie-Beirach Soprano Saxophone – David Liebman Tenor Saxophone – David Liebman (tracks: 1-1 to 2-4) also, Alto Flute – David Liebman (tracks: 2-1 to 2-4) ANYWAY, how “soprano-heavy” is this release? (If I might ask, sheepishly. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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