JSngry Posted Thursday at 02:06 AM Report Posted Thursday at 02:06 AM That Davis trio of the early 50's with Floyd Smith and Chris Columbus seems to have been pretty popular in it's day. What I've been able to hear of them has certainly been fun! Hell, Duke carried him in the band for a little bit! Quote
Dub Modal Posted Friday at 02:50 AM Report Posted Friday at 02:50 AM On 10/29/2025 at 10:06 PM, JSngry said: That Davis trio of the early 50's with Floyd Smith and Chris Columbus seems to have been pretty popular in it's day. What I've been able to hear of them has certainly been fun! Hell, Duke carried him in the band for a little bit! That was really good. I don't know who the drum and bass players are but damn. Listening to this set now via the BN Connoisseur CDs, specifically the tracks with Edwin Swanston right now. Looks like he recorded a whole lot more on the piano. His organ playing is good and heavily blues based, at least on these tracks. His write up on discogs makes it sound like he was a good dude. Quote
JSngry Posted Friday at 03:12 AM Report Posted Friday at 03:12 AM Rufus Jones in drums. Bassist was either Victor Gaskin or Joe Benjamin. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted Friday at 08:02 AM Report Posted Friday at 08:02 AM (edited) On 10/27/2025 at 12:51 PM, Peter Friedman said: So to refer to jazz organists as sounding like Roller Rink Roly Poly organists is, in my view far far from accurate. Peter, My fault. I did not express specifically what I meant by hoaky "roller-rink" organists. On Quebec's 45 sessions, it does have that hoaky "roller-rink" organ sound, but by no means, did I mean to include, group, catergorize or generalize other organists within the organ genre, such as Larry Young, Lonnie Smith, or John Patton, who don't sound like hoaky roller-rink organists whatsoever! Just Edwin Swanston, Sir Charles Thompson, and Earl Van Dyke do sound like hoaky roller-rink organists. My opinion, of course. Hope that clarifies my postion. HG Edited Friday at 08:36 AM by Holy Ghost Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted Friday at 10:11 AM Report Posted Friday at 10:11 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, Holy Ghost said: Just Edwin Swanston, Sir Charles Thompson, and Earl Van Dyke do sound like hoaky roller-rink organists. I guess I'll have to search high and low among my LPs by Sir Charles Thompson to see if he is on organ there somewhere so as to find out what you mean by that "roller rink" sound. Sorry if this sounds blunt, but that's a connotation that does not mean much over here in "Yurp". Fairground organ sounds, maybe? Edited Friday at 11:02 AM by Big Beat Steve Quote
mikeweil Posted Friday at 10:34 AM Report Posted Friday at 10:34 AM I highly recommended the two vokumes on Ocium with early, mostly Okeh trecordings o f Wild Bill Davis. Much fun to listen to. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago On 10/27/2025 at 12:51 PM, Peter Friedman said: So to refer to jazz organists as sounding like Roller Rink Roly Poly organists is, in my view far far from accurate. I'm sorry Peter, My fault. I did not express specifically what I meant by "roller-rink" organists. On Quebec's 45 sessions, it does have that hoaky "roller-rink" organ sound, but by no means, did I mean to include, group, catergorize or generalize other organists within that genre, such as Larry Young, Lonnie Smith, or John Patton, who don't sound roller-rink hoaky whatsoever! Just Edwin Swanston, Sir Charles Thompson, and Earl Van Dyke do! Hope that clarifies my postion more. HG Wow, something hooky-dinky going on here, thought I already posted this post. Anyway, I also believe Freddie Roach's sound is a little rolly-rinky as I juxtapose Freddie's sound to Larry Young's. Wow, what a contrast! Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I have this material on Mosaic and enjoy it. I'm disappointed but not surprised that they missed those two tracks again. I would never describe organ in general as 'hockey', and would be reticent to even use that term for any particular keyboard sound. The anti-organ prejudice evident in old liner notes is stunning. Roller rinks, ballparks, and churches are all just another part of life to be enjoyed and referenced in art as needed. Since the sessions with Earl Van Dyke were shared with Fred Jackson, that might be an interesting way to reissue them: Fred Jackson Quartet Fred Jackson, tenor sax; Earl Van Dyke as Earl Vandyke, organ; Willie Jones, guitar; Wilbert Hogan, drums. Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 5, 1962 tk.4 Dippin' In The Bag Blue Note 45-1842, BLP 4094 tk.11 That's Where It's At Blue Note BLP 4094 tk.12 Easin' On Down Blue Note 45-1843, BLP 4094 tk.13 Southern Exposure Blue Note 45-1844, BLP 4094 tk.20 Preach Brother Blue Note 45-1843, BLP 4094 tk.22 Hootin' 'N Tootin' Blue Note 45-1842, BLP 4094 tk.24 Way Down Home Blue Note BLP 4094 * Blue Note BLP 4094, BST 84094 Fred Jackson - Hootin' 'N Tootin' 1962 = Blue Note CDP 7243 8 21819 2 7 - 1998 * Blue Note 45-1842 Fred Jackson - Dippin' In The Bag / Hootin' 'N Tootin' 1962 * Blue Note 45-1843 Fred Jackson - Easin' On Down / Preach Brother 1962 * Blue Note 45-1844 Fred Jackson - Southern Exposure Parts 1 & 2 not released Ike Quebec Quartet Ike Quebec, tenor sax; Earl Van Dyke as Earl Vandyke, organ; Willie Jones, guitar; Wilbert Hogan, drums. Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 5, 1962 tk.28 Intermezzo Blue Note 45-1840, LT-1052 tk.32 But Not For Me Blue Note 45-1841, LT-1052 tk.34 All The Way - tk.37 All Of Me Blue Note 45-1840, LT-1052 * Blue Note LT-1052 Ike Quebec - With A Song In My Heart 1980 = Mosaic MR3-121, MD2-121 The Complete Blue Note 45 Sessions Of Ike Quebec 1987 * Blue Note 45-1840 Ike Quebec - Intermezzo / All Of Me 1962 * Blue Note 45-1841 Ike Quebec - All The Way / But Not For Me not released Ike Quebec Quintet Ike Quebec, tenor sax; Earl Van Dyke as Earl Vandyke, organ; Willie Jones, guitar; Sam Jones, bass; Wilbert Hogan, drums. Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 13, 1962 tk.3 How Long Has This Been Going On Blue Note LT-1052 tk.6 What Is There To Say - Gone With The Wind rejected tk.15 Imagination Blue Note LT-1052 tk.24 With A Song In My Heart - tk.27 There Is No Greater Love - Be My Love rejected * Blue Note LT-1052 Ike Quebec - With A Song In My Heart 1980 = Mosaic MR3-121, MD2-121 The Complete Blue Note 45 Sessions Of Ike Quebec 1987 Fred Jackson Sextet Fred Jackson, tenor sax; Earl Van Dyke as Earl Vandyke, organ; Willie Jones, guitar; Sam Jones, bass; Wilbert Hogan, drums; unknown, congas, shaker. Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 9, 1962 tk.9 Minor Exposure Blue Note CDP 7243 8 21819 2 7 tk.18 Little Freddie - tk.19 Teena - tk.23 Mr. B.J. - tk.30 Stretchin' Out - tk.33 Egypt Land - tk.35 On The Spot - * Blue Note CDP 7243 8 21819 2 7 Fred Jackson - Hootin' 'N Tootin' 1998 Quote
JSngry Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago This doesn't sound like any kind of jazz organ to me: Quote
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