Joe Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 My copy arrived last week direct from the publisher. I've just flipped through it, but it looks like the authors really did their homework. Case in point: some discussion of Kenny's brother Joel and the efforts he made to raise K.D's profile. Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 No shipping notice, just found it in the mailbox. Oh happy day. OTOH I only now realize that one of the co-authors is a professor of Political Science. I really hope we do not get bogged down in contemporary "academic" topics. Quote
Peter Friedman Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 Looking forward to to some comments from those reading the Dorham book. Quote
AllenLowe Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 (edited) well....I downloaded a sample on Kindle, maybe 40-50 pages worth and I think it's pretty awful. The intro is a waste of time, and the first section makes the same mistake every author, unedited, seems to be making these days. The writer has mistaken research for writing, and it is so overloaded with detail about - well, everything, Texas insects, the family history (could have been cut to about 3 pages), land deals, political battles - everything but Kenny Dorham himself. And written in a totally dead style, like a listings section of a newspaper. Sorry, this is probably not a popular opinion, but this weirdness is everywhere in current jazz bios and music bios in general. The writer(s) seems to thing that merely describing something is the same as having insight into it. I just am so tired of how badly music bios are done - unless they are by Robin DG Kelley of John Szwed. I gave up on this one (and I haven't even described one particular howler of mistake, which may be an editing mistake, but that just shows there was probably no editor). Edited April 4 by AllenLowe Quote
Peter Friedman Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 Waiting for opinions on the book from those who have a copy, or that have ordered one and hopefully should arrive soon. Quote
JSngry Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 I would not discount the formative impact of Texas insects. Especially skeeters. Quote
gvopedz Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 1 hour ago, JSngry said: I would not discount the formative impact of Texas insects. Especially skeeters. I agree. Not only Texas insects, but also Texas arachnids - finding a scorpion inside your shoe is unforgettable. Quote
JSngry Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 We call them "water bug" to lessen the impact, but if it runs like a cockroach and finally squishes like a cockroach .. June Bugs are not cockroaches though. They're beetles. Many newcomers lump them altogether, though. Making an informed delineation of Texas etymology not entirely superfluous. I will be disappointed if Texas reptiles are not equally covered. Quote
T.D. Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 9 hours ago, AllenLowe said: well....I downloaded a sample on Kindle, maybe 40-50 pages worth and I think it's pretty awful. The intro is a waste of time, and the first section makes the same mistake every author, unedited, seems to be making these days. The writer has mistaken research for writing, and it is so overloaded with detail about - well, everything, Texas insects, the family history (could have been cut to about 3 pages), land deals, political battles - everything but Kenny Dorham himself. And written in a totally dead style, like a listings section of a newspaper. Sorry, this is probably not a popular opinion, but this weirdness is everywhere in current jazz bios and music bios in general. The writer(s) seems to thing that merely describing something is the same as having insight into it. I just am so tired of how badly music bios are done - unless they are by Robin DG Kelley of John Szwed. I gave up on this one (and I haven't even described one particular howler of mistake, which may be an editing mistake, but that just shows there was probably no editor). Thank you. I held off ordering due to fear of something of the sort (lack of concrete KD info), and have been waiting for reviews. Re. lack of editor, sadly that seems practically the norm nowadays. Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 I took a look at that kindle sample of the book. I did not read the whole sample, just skimmed through a bit. It did not look that bad to me. I like Kenny Dorham and am interested in his story so I'll probably order the kindle edition one of these days if they ever drop the price. Quote
Peter Friedman Posted Thursday at 03:53 PM Report Posted Thursday at 03:53 PM On 4/4/2026 at 10:39 AM, AllenLowe said: well....I downloaded a sample on Kindle, maybe 40-50 pages worth and I think it's pretty awful. The intro is a waste of time, and the first section makes the same mistake every author, unedited, seems to be making these days. The writer has mistaken research for writing, and it is so overloaded with detail about - well, everything, Texas insects, the family history (could have been cut to about 3 pages), land deals, political battles - everything but Kenny Dorham himself. And written in a totally dead style, like a listings section of a newspaper. Sorry, this is probably not a popular opinion, but this weirdness is everywhere in current jazz bios and music bios in general. The writer(s) seems to thing that merely describing something is the same as having insight into it. I just am so tired of how badly music bios are done - unless they are by Robin DG Kelley of John Szwed. I gave up on this one (and I haven't even described one particular howler of mistake, which may be an editing mistake, but that just shows there was probably no editor). Allen, thanks for sharing your opinion. Unless I become aware of more positive reviews, I will keep my money in the bank. Too bad, as a "good" bio on Kenny Dorham would be appreciated. Quote
Brad Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Allen posted something about the book on FB. Frankly, I’m thinking he makes too much of this particular passage. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0vn8juNCWeExLk1gVYiHCzPdLnRDGYzcy13qVXDZofy9ME81G7Szy1snR6pGtddE7l&id=100000637954817 Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted 55 minutes ago Report Posted 55 minutes ago 43 minutes ago, Brad said: Allen posted something about the book on FB. Frankly, I’m thinking he makes too much of this particular passage. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0vn8juNCWeExLk1gVYiHCzPdLnRDGYzcy13qVXDZofy9ME81G7Szy1snR6pGtddE7l&id=100000637954817 I just read the entire FB discussion linked above, and - apart from the fact that, for a FB page, this is some serious and enlightened discussion - he may indeed be making too much of this particular passage if this was the only sore spot. But was it?? I don't know so I'd not judge that book myself. In general, though, I'd find such nonsense almost as grating as Allen did. Why do these authors have to resort to such clichés? And why can't they link the elements of their reasoning more properly so the reader isnt left wondering what the author actually meant to say? Do they really expect that their bluff won't be called by some readers if it can be called that easily? (In fact they ought to be glad that readers out there read their elaborations that attentively, instead of just glossing over them ... ) I guess I've been overly critical with some books I've read and commented upon here on that forum too. But one basic premise just is and remains: Get your facts right! Quote
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