ssjazz Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Tony Williams. Cindy Blackman. Write up in the Playbill for the "Mary Lou Williams Women in Jazz Festival" says, "...and her source of inspiration, Tony Williams". I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NUTTY TO START THE "LEAST FAVORITE DRUMMERS" TOPIC.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonk Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Jon Christensen started out as a good drummer, but something happened....I'm not quite sure what happened to him, but he lost whatever time he had, the same with Paul Motian. I love Motian's music, but I feel like telling him it's okay to play a solid rhythm. Joe Morello...he just bores me to death. Lewis Nash....he must have two different personalities, because one minute the guy can swing, then he just looses focus. John Hollenbeck....he really has been annoying me lately. Jeff Ballard....he doesn't impress me that much and has gotten a lot of praise in last couple of years, he's pretty overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 John bonham neil Peart No jazz drummer comes close to annoying me as much as these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Jeff Ballard....he doesn't impress me that much and has gotten a lot of praise in last couple of years, he's pretty overrated That's funny. I saw him four or five years ago, never having heard of him, and never hearing his name again since, and I thought he was damned good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Little Ricky - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Morley Safer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I'm seeing triple - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 But only drinking doubles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Morley Safer! What sessions does he drum on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 60 Minutes Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Jeff Ballard....he doesn't impress me that much and has gotten a lot of praise in last couple of years, he's pretty overrated That's funny. I saw him four or five years ago, never having heard of him, and never hearing his name again since, and I thought he was damned good. I've liked him wherever I've heard him (mostly with Rosenwinkel). He has a nice loose, propulsive, yet precise style. Great sound from the kit as well. And I've yet to hear Lewis Nash lose focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkeith Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Gadd came to mind, but then, I don't think of him as a "Jazz" drummer, and the list of non-Jazz drummers I detest would be too long. Buddy Rich would have to be on the short list, as would Alan Dawson. AD can actually ruin Booker Ervin for me at times. The thread does not have "jazz" in the title! Alan Dawson? I'm a fan. I like him more than I like Booker, to be honest. He was imaginative and interactive. Taught Tony Williams a lot. . . . You're right, Jazz is not in the title (unless you count where it says JAZZ DISCUSSION FORUM in the upper left). Of course, "What drummer are you a fan of?" and "Who's a great drum teacher?" are also not in the title. Dawson was a great teacher, and to my ear, a boring drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 That's fine Thom, it just seems so strange because TO ME because I find him far from boring. But if 'tis so to you, 'tis so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I for one have never found Alan Dawson a boring drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom in RI Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I am not in a position to critique Alan Dawson's recorded work but I will say he was among the most memorable performers I have seen play in person. In addition to Tony Williams, Dawson also was a teacher to Terry Lynn Carrington during her formative years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randissimo Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) Jeff Ballard....he doesn't impress me that much and has gotten a lot of praise in last couple of years, he's pretty overrated That's funny. I saw him four or five years ago, never having heard of him, and never hearing his name again since, and I thought he was damned good. I've liked him wherever I've heard him (mostly with Rosenwinkel). He has a nice loose, propulsive, yet precise style. Great sound from the kit as well. And I've yet to hear Lewis Nash lose focus. Got to go with Joe here.. Hung out once in awhile with Ballard when I lived in Oaklnd, Ca in the late 80's.. At the time he was hittin' with Jessica Williams.. I saw Nash last winter in GR with Joe Lovano and really enjoyed his attentive, relaxed, and creative approach. Very sparkly, entertaining, and always musical. Edited June 1, 2008 by randissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I don't really like to diss musicians, and there are sooo many jazz drummers that I love. But I really dislike Buddy Rich. I don't care about technique one little bit. I mean, obviously, he was a fine musician. But I just don't like him, or his big band style. Jimmy Cobb with Miles I don't like much too. Too tight, and pulls the beat forward, making too much tension for me. I much prefer Philly Joe with Miles from that era. Or Art Taylor. On a lot of BN dates, Billy Higgins is too heavy with the snare accents for me - can get overbearing at times. But after a lot of listening, I became a fan of him. He was great with Sonny Clark and Butch Warren - how great that section was on several sessions. One thing I look for in a drummer, as a sax player, is one who supports, and does not distract, the horn players. It would have been marvelous to play with Art Blakey kicking you up the ass, and all those press rolls. I used to play with a drummer who was into the Evans/LaFaro/Motian records a lot (which I love), and whenever we started to get wild in our solos, he would go wild to and make it hard to know where "one" was. so you had to pause your solo to let things settle. That was always a pain. I don't really like Roy Haynes's "snap, crackle pop" sound much, but he is certainly one of the greats. I think Max Roach was at his best with Bird. He was The Man back then, but, for me, not as interesting later. Will that get me booted from the site, Jim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I personally dig Ballard, check him out on the new live Mehldau trio album. He's one of those cats along with Antonio Sanchez that's being real creative on the kit. Bobby Durham has been mentioned here, you know, I cannot stand the hi hat choke on the upbeat that he always does, it gets really annoying, it gets annoying for me when Louis Hayes does it too, but Hayes is a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 how about if somebody hates all drummers - and I mean all drummers - I HATE ALL DRUMMERS there...I feel better now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 (edited) I do like tamborine players (am I spelling that right?) - castinets are ok; bongos make me think of Maynard G. Krebs, so that's good - various African percussion is OK as long as it is played in a disorderly fashion - which is why some Latin percussion annoys me - too tonally "tight" and unyielding, lacks the requisite overtones to throw the harmony off - Edited June 2, 2008 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainwrong Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I do like tamborine players (am I spelling that right?) The great Jack Ashford of the Funk Brothers. The only tambourine virtuoso I can name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I had this toy once - monkey playing the drums - now HE was good - perfect time, not too loud - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 In general I like Louis Bellson, but if you ever see him live or sometimes even on disc, his solos are WAY too long (longer than Buddy's for sure). I once heard Billy Drummond live playing in a group with his wife Renee Rosnes, and I thought he was too loud (the eternal curse of drummers). But on disc he sounds great. He has a fiery and uplifting sense of swing that I really like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Roy Haynes. File this under "Artists Whose Work I Respect, Whose Reputation is Well-Deserved, but I Just Don't GET!" Never been able to connect with the man's work, which is extensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I had this toy once - monkey playing the drums - now HE was good - perfect time, not too loud - Sounds like a performance at Bang on a Can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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