Chuck Nessa

America unleashed

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1 hour ago, duaneiac said:

I guess it is complicated.  One photo above includes a fully nude underage girl, which would certainly qualify as "porn" in many quarters. 

 

 

"Porn" or "history"?  I'll bet the person taking the photo was probably delighted by the brutal killing of Mussolini and his mistress among others.  Does the possibility that the photographer might have derived a sense of pleasure from seeing this horrendous sight automatically make it "death porn"?  Should any Italian (or any European or American) who derived a sense of pleasure in 1945 from seeing the mutilated corpse of Mussolini strung up like a side of beef be considered a "sick fuck"?

History is frequently unpleasant to look at and the photographic records we have of recent history can be deeply troubling but very informative.  It's a mistake to gloss over the most unpleasant records in our history.

Dude, you need to watch either more or less porn if you can't tell the difference.

It's really not complicated.

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I was raised in the Catholic Church, so perhaps I am inured to "death porn"

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"Porn" or "Art"?  Do I know it when I see it?

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1 hour ago, duaneiac said:

"Porn" or "Art"?  Do I know it when I see it?

Hell if I know if you do.

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Rubens, Barbieri and Tiepolo? Damn right it’s art. 

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7 minutes ago, Brad said:

Rubens, Barbieri and Tiepolo? Damn right it’s art. 

Rubens, Barbieri and Tiepolo, yes.

Sado-Masochistic photos from Abu Ghraib? Not so much.

Historically relevant or not (of course they are). their intent was pornographic (at best) and they don't belong on this forum, anymore that photographs of lynchings do. Plenty of those to be found if that's your thing. But if it is - don't think that this is your audience.

Not complicated.

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Here's one which has historical relevance and is explicitly pornographic --

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Meanwhile, this happened:

A Florida chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police posted a now deleted advertisement over the weekend calling on those officers involved in violent incidents in Buffalo and Atlanta to join the ranks of local police agencies, drawing howls of outrage from citizens across Florida.

"Hey Buffalo 57... and Atlanta 6... we are hiring in Florida. Lower taxes, no spineless leadership, or dumb mayors rambling on at press conferences... Plus... we got your back! #lawandorderFlorida," reads the June 6 post made at 1:21 a.m on the Brevard County FOP Facebook page.

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-chapter-fraternal-order-police-193421794.html

 

 

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How is a photo of Mnuchin and his wife celebrating new currency pornographic?

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If ya gotta ask, I will never be able to explain it for ya.

Meanwhile, the police in Alameda, CA apparently are not big fans of Martha Reeves & The Vandellas --

Alameda city officials are demanding action after cell phone video surfaced showing an unarmed black man handcuffed by police after reports he was "dancing in the street."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alameda-city-officials-demand-action-021710680.html

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Ready for a brand new beat indeed...

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38 minutes ago, duaneiac said:

If ya gotta ask, I will never be able to explain it for ya.

If you want to take that attitude, fine, but if you want to have a discussion....

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In other news..., looks like they caught the dude that shot retired St. Louis PD Captain David Dorn.. The dude that shop him apparently was supposed to be serving 7 years for felony robbery. He received a suspended execution sentence, violated probation twice and was given......, you guessed it, another suspended execution sentence.

Meanwhile, this happened:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime

 

 

 

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Wow, there's crime everywhere these days!

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Yeah, well, true, but it's also a different conversation than this one.

Totally different in my mind, maybe not everybody's, but in mine, yeah, Totally different conversation.

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25 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

I don't even know where to begin with this. (Doctors who "kill" people generally don't do it by slowly crushing the life out of them with a knee to the neck, for starters.)  I'll begin, I guess, by saying that I had three cops for uncles and a mother who was a deputy prosecutor.  So I don't come from a background of f-the-pigs or what have you.  But frankly, the less guys like this as cops, the better.  *Please* leave, and step aside for a new generation of law enforcement officers who don't act like entitled fascists.

2 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

"If you think Minneapolis will turn into Mogadishu and that is far from you, it’s coming."

uh, dude is maybe a bit racist...

Dude's attitude on display in this article is a symptom of why so many people have taken to the streets to protest.  

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55 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

yep.

Times 2.

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Posted (edited)

This is not the kind of officer we should be looking at to lead any positive change in policing. Interesting that the Tulsa PD has him assigned to the Records Division, no doubt, to keep him off the street.

Article about Major Yates and what he thinks.

Another One

In other words, I will look to other places for ideas about police reform.

Edited by Matthew

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zero accountability and responsibility for

harassing / arresting people 

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10 minutes ago, Soulstation1 said:

zero accountability and responsibility for

harassing / arresting people 

I read about this incident and found it was from a year ago and dude is definitely not an FBI agent.

Rochester PD Statement:

"The officers believed they recognized a person known to have an arrest warrant for assault. The individual was roughly the same height, weight and age of the individual the officer believed to have a warrant. Officers approached the male and asked him his name. The individual was not co-operative in identifying himself to officers," they said.

"The officers determined they had reasonable suspicion to detain the individual and determine his identity. During the brief detention, identification was located showing he was not the individual the officers knew had a warrant. The individual was immediately released. Contrary to social media rumours, the individual was not a Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI] agent."

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