Rooster_Ties Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) About a month ago I acquired the Mosaic box, courtesy of a very gracious board member (thank you!!). And I also have the following two releases... Intuition -- Lennie Tristano and Warne Marsh (1949 & 1956 sessions) -- I picked this one up first, about 4 months ago, and that's what started to get me hooked Then last week I picked up Subconscious-Lee -- Lee Konitz (1949-1950). So if I want to focus on more material from the 40's, 50's, and 60's -- but I'm not really looking for a whole dozen more CD's... ...so I think 3-4 more CD's would probably do it. Is there anything else really key to add by or with Tristano especially?? Konitz too, whose cool playing from the Mosaic box has me TOTALLY transfixed (this is really my first major exposure to his Lee's earlier playing -- though I did hear Lee live in Kansas City in 2006 with Bill Frisell). I do have Birth of the Cool (of course), and an interesting co-leader day with/by Attila Zoller, Lee Konitz, Albert Mangelsdorff called Zo-Ko-Ma (MPS, 1968) -- and I've heard 3-4 later dates that have Lee with Brad Mehldau, Kenny Wheeler, etc... ...and a couple other random Lee leader-dates from the 90's. I'm especially loving the interplay of Warne when he's paired with another sax player (more than that one Warne Atlantic date where he's the only sax player, which I'm still wrapping my head around). NOTE: The only other Warne date I own is All Music, which I've had for about 12 years. BTW, I've meant to try and find a reasonably priced copy of the 3CD expanded version of Lee's Motion (Verve, 1961) literally for YEARS -- but I haven't found one yet. But I have to admit that it's the prospect of hearing more of these guys in contexts where there's a good bit of collective (multi-voice) improv. -- either two horns, or with piano and/or guitar. So where do I go next?? What should I prioritize? Thanks!! Edited January 10, 2021 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 You'll need this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Probably "Lee Konitz meets Jimmy Giuffre" on Verve .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Lee & Warne did a couple of tours in the mid-70s that produced spectacular results, but that's outside your time frame, or so you say....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Oh yeah, this: TV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 This Savoy Anthology (The Jazz Keyboards) The Uptown release, Chicago, April 1951 The Keynote release. This DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMB1968 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Marsh paired w/ Gary Foster. It's the tail end of the period your asking for, but it is a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) The Ted Brown / Warne Marsh recordings (FREEWHEELIN' etc.). Also, the Art Pepper / Marsh session for Contemporary. You can get a taste via THE WAY IT WAS, but the complete sessions are out there too, though maybe only ever released in Japan [?]. Edited January 9, 2021 by Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, SMB1968 said: Marsh paired w/ Gary Foster. It's the tail end of the period your asking for, but it is a classic. Yeah, I've been eyeing that Marsh/Foster date for close to a year. What I sampled of it (some time ago) from YouTube, sounded really nice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Also, the Lee Konitz / Gerry Mulligan / Chet Baker Pacific Jazz date... maybe I'm just clueless, but I don't see much discussion of this one. A key document, and still very fine listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Joe said: Also, the Lee Konitz / Gerry Mulligan / Chet Baker Pacific Jazz date... maybe I'm just clueless, but I don't see much discussion of this one. A key document, and still very fine listening. Two dates actually, one studio, one live. The studio stuff is more than a little interesting, but the live stuff with Lee sitting in with the working quartet is essential early Konitz, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 and then this beauty of a 12" (various covers over the years, but this is the one I have...the covers on that entire series are gorgeous in all kinds of ways) Lee flows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, JSngry said: Two dates actually, one studio, one live. The studio stuff is more than a little interesting, but the live stuff with Lee sitting in with the working quartet is essential early Konitz, imo. Thanks; I'd forgotten half of it was live. And agree. Some of the best early Konitz out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 More material from the same 1957 club date that produced "The Real Lee Konitz" (Atlantic), which is on the Mosaic set. Lee, Don Ferrara (on four of eight tracks) Billy Bauer, Peter Ind, Dick Scott. About 60 minutes of new music, great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Lee In Paris (1953) on Vogue - the level of Lee's playing here with a quartet approximates that of the live recording on Pacific Jazz with the Mulligan group. There's a further release on Vogue that contains all the out-takes. Incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: Yeah, I've been eyeing that Marsh/Foster date for close to a year. What I sampled of it (some time ago) from YouTube, sounded really nice!! This is definitely a "must have" .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Two good ones which haven’t seen mentioned above are Lee Konitz with Warne Marsh (Atlantic, 1955) and Jazz of Two Cities (Imperial, 1956), which pairs Marsh with Ted Brown. Also, ditto on Half Note and meets Mulligan mentioned above. Edited January 10, 2021 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Larry Kart said: More material from the same 1957 club date that produced "The Real Lee Konitz" (Atlantic), which is on the Mosaic set. Lee, Don Ferrara (on four of eight tracks) Billy Bauer, Peter Ind, Dick Scott. About 60 minutes of new music, great stuff. Yes! Only found out about this a few weeks ago and had to buy it right away. Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I also see there's a grey market collection of the complete Konitz / Mulligan / Baker Haig recordings from 1953, but I know little else about it. https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Konitz-Chet-Baker-Gerry-Mulligan-Complete-1953-The-Haig-Performances/release/10231100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe said: I also see there's a grey market collection of the complete Konitz / Mulligan / Baker Haig recordings from 1953, but I know little else about it. https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Konitz-Chet-Baker-Gerry-Mulligan-Complete-1953-The-Haig-Performances/release/10231100 Lee's only on the first 11 of thise, the rest are just the Mulligan Baker quartet, albeit in top keenly attuned form. Bopsieland, indeed! 13 hours ago, Larry Kart said: More material from the same 1957 club date that produced "The Real Lee Konitz" (Atlantic), which is on the Mosaic set. Lee, Don Ferrara (on four of eight tracks) Billy Bauer, Peter Ind, Dick Scott. About 60 minutes of new music, great stuff. On Wave, (at least) two more absolutely essential Warne records: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnik Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Joe said: I also see there's a grey market collection of the complete Konitz / Mulligan / Baker Haig recordings from 1953 Yes, that's one I wanted to recommend too, but it's been mentioned before. But the Pacific Jazz version, issued by Capitol I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, JSngry said: Lee's only on the first 11 of thise, the rest are just the Mulligan Baker quartet, albeit in top keenly attuned form. Bopsieland, indeed! On Wave, (at least) two more absolutely essential Warne records: Thanks for the clarification! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 what about early revelation lps like gary foster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) This recent compilation album contains a collection of Lee's early recordings. These are essential recordings, and contain some of the greatest improvisations you will ever hear. These recordings established Konitz as a unique voice in modern jazz. The two early albums he recorded for George Wein"s Storyville label are also essential to following his development. Edited February 26, 2021 by garthsj correction of information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 2:58 PM, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said: what about early revelation lps like gary foster definitely in that zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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