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I found the cd for a euro at a thriftstore and it's now playing ...

That whole BN Montreux series has been a mystery for five decades. I know I only ever saw them as cutouts at Third Street Jazz in Philly (Jerry Gordon's store years before he founded Evidence Records), and there is question if those albums were actually released at the time. The CD issues later on were good to have. If course, the Marlena Shaw sample was the retrospectively famous moment, and I assume that and the Norah Jones windfall made their release more viable.

Sonora Ponceña - Sabor Sureño (Inca, 1974) Craft reissue LP

Thanks, looks like we can make it!

A new one by Mira Melford ('s trio). Guess I'll just post the review since it sums it up pretty nicely: https://www.freejazzblog.org/2025/08/myra-melford-splash-intakt-2025.html Increasingly, I find myself liking large portions of Intakt's output. This one is not an exception. Free yet quite "bouncy", as the reviewer puts it.

Eliane Elias “Illusions” Denon cd Acoustic Bass, Electric Bass – Stanley Clarke (2 tracks) Bass – Eddie Gomez Drums – Al Foster or Lenny White or Steve Gadd Harmonica – Toots Thielemans (2 tracks) Piano, Producer – Eliane Elias Recorded at R.P.M. Studios, N.Y.C. on Oct. 22, 23, 24, 1986

Oh yes, definitely having read that. Enjoy it if you can get to it

Miles Davis, Quiet Nights Stan Getz, Greatest Hits

Blue Note released several LPs from that concert (Bobby Hutcherson, Bobbi Humphrey, Marlena Shaw & Ronnie Foster), so they more than made up for any recording costs. The fact that Byrd's performance was the only one not released at the time speaks to the label listening to the artists even back then. It's not like them keeping it in the can was good for Byrd's wallet. Here's what Michael Cuscuna said to me about this when someone on the Steve Hoffman forums questioned why he didn't release it himself: MC: Reality check: This was the only Montreux performance from that Blue Note night on July 5, 1973 to remain unissued in all territories. I asked Donald why and he said that like other live recordings he tried in the States, the results never reached the level of production and perfection that the original studio tracks did. He said it wasn’t successful and did not want it out. In those days, getting studio time to mix down multi track tapes – especially on speculation – was rarely approved. Fast forward to Don Was’s era as Blue Note president. From his vantage point, there isn’t much unreleased, but he liked to find whatever he can. The Byrd Montreux tape was a revelation – not as slick or perfect as a Mizell Bros. production, but cookin’ in a great groove nonetheless. So Don released it and we’re all happy about that. Why this is some indictment of me and the assumption is that this album would have sold hundreds of thousands more copies than anything else at that time are fictions that I can’t grasp.

https://www.organissimo.org/forum/topic/83424-john-coltrane-impulse-masters-destroyed/

I thought it was Atlantic.

It's time for Creation.

I imagine Ravi has been consulted re: any tapes he may have still unreleased.

You mean the big Universal fire? There was definitely Coltrane material destroyed there

Just looked into both of them and...I think we'll try to hit that one as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Care_Moore

The Blakey and the Byrd were not released during their lifetimes. I am a huge Blakey fan, but have never had access to any back channels, so never heard it before the BN reissue. That being said, the Blakey was pretty underwhelming based on what was already out there in the marketplace. To me, the Byrd is amazingly/surprisingly good and unique, and I'm very glad it was finally released. I have mixed feelings about "the artist's wishes" on that stuff. BN took on the effort and expense to record that concert, and it was quite worthwhile, why should they have to just eat the costs if it is worthy of release? To me, that concert puts Byrd's contemporaneous studio output to shame, is way above anything he recorded from 'Black Byrd' on, including the commercial BN's, Elektra stuff and the "comeback" albums on Landmark.

I wonder how many tapes made at Van Gelder's had backup copies. Didn't impulse! have a fire at some point?

I'm in for all Classic Quartet and late sextet recordings. I'd love to hear this: Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, March 29, 1967 90784 Number Eight Impulse! lost 90785 Number Seven - 90786 Number Six - 90787 Number Five - 90788 Number Four - 90789 Number Two

The "Just Coolin'" release is the one that really bugs me too. This session was widely distributed through back channels for years & years... decades even. I don't think I knew of any Blakey fan who didn't have it. I even had someone send Michael Cuscuna his "mastering" take on an CD sequence but Michael wouldn't budge that it was not worthy of being released. Michael often talked to the artists about sessions like this and for all we know, Blakey himself might not have wanted that session released. I know that Donald Byrd specifically did not want those Montreux recordings released, but we see what artists' desires mean to today's Blue Note reissue team.

Will read this again when I get around to it, so thanks for the link. But in THIS thread I would not want to go too far into BN territory. The "Prestige/Milestone" twofer experience is a case of its own!