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What Classical Music Are You Listening To?
Peter Friedman replied to StarThrower's topic in Classical Discussion
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"Jazz a la Sauter: Eddie Sauter" on Night Lights
Big Beat Steve replied to ghost of miles's topic in Jazz Radio & Podcasts
You aren't wrong. Writeups from German jazz sources mentioned him as a sort of pioneer of "third stream" in jazz (which was a big thing over here in the 50s and 60s - obviously there were many who did not dare to stray too far from good old classical music into outright "toe-tapping" jazz and felt more comfortable when they still had their aural reference points reminding them of classical music ). The third stream as heard elsewhere is not that evident to me all in all with the Sauter recordings (and the "Eddie Sauter in Germany" LP I mentioned certainly is not as far out as the concert piece from the Donaueschingen festival that Ghost of Miles speaks of in his text for his Night Lights show, but then Donaueschingen always was a meeting place for the "weirdos in jazz" ). But a certain tendency is there, and I also am among those who need to be in the mood to really dig the Eddie Sauter scores. FWIW, just before Christmas I bought an original copy of the Sauter-Finegan's "Return of the Doodletown Fifers" on United Artists, and my first listening impression was that I need to revisit the record later when I am more in the mood for this. (Which often does happen, as I do enjoy my doses of Kentons, Raeburns and Thornhills too. File under "another chapter in progressive jazz", then! ) -
Mosaic now has some discographies on their site.
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Some of Sauter's work is swinging, such as the Goodman stuff. But it seems when he is given free rein he goes toward a kind of neo-classical orchestral style of writing which strays pretty far from the jazz tradition. I guess I'm an old fogey but I like a fair amount of toe tapping kind of thing in the music I listen to. I am going to give Sauter some more chances. My first impression is maybe not my cup of tea...
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Martin Wind, Philip Catherine & Ack van Rooyen - White Noise (Laika)
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"Jazz a la Sauter: Eddie Sauter" on Night Lights
Big Beat Steve replied to ghost of miles's topic in Jazz Radio & Podcasts
I had missed this radio show the earlier times round, so it is a nice reminder. Just one detail about the script about your show that's accessible under your link: Eddie Sauter made much more of a splash here on the German jazz scene than is apparent from your rather short mention of his activities in Germany. And he really added a asting page of history to late 50s jazz here. As for the reasons hinted at why his stay with that radio big band ended, it is certainly much less "problematic" than your text sounds. It all boiled down to the permanent problem that no big band in those settings could survive at that time on an all-out jazz repertoire, so a percentage of more commercial "dance band tunes" had to be accommodated. And this contrast probably grated Eddie Sauter more in the long run than it would have certain other band leaders. But it wasn't really a question of the perception of the quality of Sauter's work as such by the deciders. Recommended listening for everyone: the 2-LP set "Eddie Sauter in Germany" on Big Band International 2706. BTW, admittedly I have not looked in detail at the texts accompanying your shows past and present for some time, but I see now that you no longer have a setlist of the tunes broadcast during a show (so that the readers can check beforehand what they will be listening to). Pity, because these setlists came in handy ... -
Pablo Live 2308-216 - Benny Carter "Live And Well In Japan!" - rec. 1978 - Engineer (remix): Val Valentine
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That's a great video, thanks for sharing. I'm glad there's higher quality versions out now too. Did the Dave Coleman track from the acetate ever turn up? I'm curious if it's an outtake our part of something that was eventually released, since it says excerpt.
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Love Dance and Double Exposure are indeed about to be released. A friend received preview copies. I think this series is only being released on LP. I would love to get a CD of Double Exposure ... someday.
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CJ DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! Ten games in a row!
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I always forget I have this album...because it's shelved in a different spot. The JVC XRCD edition—which sounds absolutely amazing—is too big to fit with other CDs. But it's the music that counts! And the music delivers. Not a trio album (per this thread), but excellent nonetheless. Highly recommended, and I'm sure many posters here own it already.
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RKVB03 started following King Pleasure on film? other rare photos?
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I've been on this King Pleasure obsession for the past year, largely because the mystery that surrounds him, anyways, I found this little mention of him on Downbeat for august 27, 1952 that mentions he was on a television program called the Ralph Cooper Program with Blossom Dearie. I would love to see it, but I doubt its possible. Also, I've always wanted to see photos of him performing on stage, there is one of him on his stage throne from 1954 and one from a 1972 reissue King Pleasure - The Source, but the image was altered. It would be nice to see the original. Thanks, if you can find it.
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correct - compared this acetate to disc 2 recordings of CM's "Super-Sonic Jazz" & three tracks (over 8 mins of the acetate) are duplicated ie 1. Stratosphere (unidentified hard bop) 2. Delight (tk #2) 3. Delilah
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