Chuck Nessa

A few Braxtons I have not seen on cd - though I may have missed 'em. Recital Paris '71 on Futura Complete AB on Freedom (2 lps) Donna Lee on America Saxophone Improvisations - Series F on America (2 lps) Creative Music Orchestra on Ring/Moers (3 lps) Quartet Live on Ring/Moers (2 lps) Four Compositions 1973 on PCM/Columbia and the live performance of Composition 98 on Hat

I was out of line - I should have sent a PM instead of posting here. Apologies to all concerned.

Here is what I know. Last week I exchanged a cd for a customer. That disc has a visible flaw (probably a bubble) at the outer edge. It mistracks on my machines. Yesterday someone else contacted me about tracking problems on the final track and I sent a replacement. I should have the "defective" copy back in a couple of days to check. Since then I have pulled 10 discs, at random, from my stock and played the final track on 4 different machines - my regular player, my Sony portable, my computer and the player in my wife's car. None of the 10 discs gave me a problem on any of the machines. At his point I don't know what to think. I may know more when the disc in transit reaches me. Hans and Skid, do your discs have visible flaws near the edge?

Yeah, that's a big mistake us "old farts" make sometimes; since we were intimidated by "out" stuff at first, we assume they will be as well, and end up avoiding the very stuff that would pull them in! Nope, it's you guys in the middle missing the point. "Old farts" got it a long time ago.

Heard some earlier and later dates. I never "considered" any of 'em.

Roost, you have taken your "idolitry" too far. I will stop looking at your AH threads. Sorry.

First thought was Albert Ayler. Guess I'll go with "Bells".

Sorry to bring this thread back but I have now had 2 complaints about the last track "not tracking". If you have this problem, let me know now.

Roscoe Mitchell/Lester Bowie Roscoe Mitchell/Malachi Favors Roscoe Mitchell/Phillip Wilson Bird/Diz Herbie Nichols/Max Roach (Max made Herbie happy, but I preferred Bu. What do I know.) Chet Baker/Russ Freeman I may have more to follow, but am hung up on these at the moment.

Just a warning for anyone looking to pick up a cheap pre-RVG version: This is the third US version of this cd - the first had no alternate, the 2nd had the alt of "With (Exit)" added. Now we have an RVG with the alternate included. Bill Dixon had mentioned to me (in the early '70s) a great alternate to the issued music. He preferred an unissued take. After the first cd was issued Michael called me to ask if I remembered which "tune" had Dixon's preferred alt and I said I no longer remembered. Then the 2nd cd version was issued. I'm happy to have any extra material from this date but feel compelled to say I prefer "Unit Structures" by a small bit. Both are very fine dates. I have not heard the RVG yet but will buy it soon.

3 new releases from Okkadisk! All out now! OD12047 The Peter Brötzmann Chicago Tentet "Images" OD12048 The Peter Brötzmann Chicago Tentet "Signs" 2 new discs of live and studio material from '02 & '03 with new compositions by Brötzmann (both title pieces), Ken Vandermark, Mats Gustafsson and Fred Longberg-Holm. OD12049 Atomic/School Days "Nuclear Assembly Hall" the 3rd release by Ken Vandermark's School Days is a double cd of studio material recorded with the Oslo quintet Atomic. both bands have the same rhythm section of Paal Nilssen-Love on drums and Ingebrigt Håker Flaten on bass. the group includes Magnus Broo:trumpet, Jeb Bishop:trombone, Fredrik Liungkvist:reeds, Ken Vandermark:reeds, Hävard Wiik:piano & Kjell Nordeson:vibraphone. 9 new compositions 1 each by all the members (2 by Mr. Liungkvist)

Yes, it came in what is called a "chubby double". Yours has been repackaged.

Laz is a wonderful friend for 20 years. I had the honor of acting as "best man" at the wedding. Now he has 2 very finel babies. Go and corrupt their minds Lazaro! All the best from the both of us.

Maybe their server was overloaded 'cause they finally listed "All Music" in the new release section.

Dan’s been bugging me for a report on the vacation, so here goes. Friday we drove from MI to Annapolis and spent the night. In the morning we drove down to Ocean City, visited the wild ponies of the Chincoteague National Wildlife Refuge, then we got back on route 13 and drove south to the Chesapeake Bay Bridge/Tunnel. The Bridge/Tunnel is something else! We arrived in Williamsburg early Saturday night, checked into our place and crashed. Sunday we did Jamestown – both the historic site and the recreation. Monday we drove to Kitty Hawk and down the outer banks to the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse. Tuesday we did the James River Plantation thing. Only two of them (Shirley and Berkeley) were open but that was enough to fill the day. Friday we spent half a day at Yorktown. The rest of the time we spent in Colonial Williamsburg. We took the “Ghosts of Williamsburg” walking tour one night, bought a 2 day pass for the “pay sites” and wandered around on our own. We enjoyed Colonial Williamsburg immensely. Thursday, we looked up a “friend of a friend” who lives right across the street from Colonial Williamsburg. Mary Gonzales, age 87 is the widow of the former director of the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. Her husband was hired by the Rockefellers in the ‘60s to oversee the site (or something like that). Anyway, she insisted on taking us on a tour of “behind the scenes” stuff we might miss. Well, it seems Mary is the “Grande Dame” of Williamsburg. Everywhere we went she was greeted by name and doors were opened for us. It was a hoot. She also took us to lunch at the Golden Horseshoe Golf Club Grill. Our desert was a rum/raisin ice cream, which may have been the best I’ve ever had. Beyond the “lunch with Mary”, our only other dining out was at the Kyoto Hibachi Grill (seafood cooked at the table sort of thing). It was very good. The rest of the time Ann cooked our food back at our apartment (gotta watch the diet). We left on Saturday and took a side trip in Virginia when Ann spotted a sign indicating a “scenic parkway” through the Blue Ridge mountains. It was very nice but made out arrival at the motel in scenic Akron very late on Saturday night. We arrived home on Sunday around 6 PM to find 4000 cds in the garage! I hope some of you enjoyed the music! Much thanks to Dan and Vajerzy for the help. I’ll entertain any questions you might have.

YIKES! A really tough question which needs to be taylored to the student. I can't answer that. You might not have enough either. SHIT (notice I did not use crap).

We seem to have two different ideas going on here. Jazz "cornerstones" and recordings to seduce new converts are very different things. The Armstrongs are the only recordings mentioned I'd find essential to understanding jazz, but the rest have "suckered in" a number of people. It depends on the experience and "open-ness" of the audience.

Goldie can be an "acquired taste". I have a slight allergy. Clunky should explore Don Ewell's own records. The Good Time Jazz sessions are a great place to start down that path.

Is it better to be an "AMG Insider" or an "AAJ Core Member"? Should this be a poll? :lol:

That is one of my favorites.

Here is the track listing, so you can compare. Disc one, tracks 1-5 = original lp 6 Dizzy Moods (composite) 8:23 7 Ysabel's Table Dance (composite) 13:07 8 Los Mariachis (composite) 12:28 9 Flamingo (alternate) 6:43 Disc two 1 Tijuana Gift Shop (alternate) 4:43 2 A Colloquial Dream 10:54 3 Flamingo (composite) 7:06 the rest is called "session footage" and is made up of a series of incomplete takes, false starts and studio chatter. Listed as follows: 4 Ysabel's Table Dance 11:43 5 Dizzy Moods (breakdown) 1:35 6 Dizzy Moods (bass solos) 0:48 7 Tijuana Gift Shop (breakdowns) 7:11 8 Tijuana Gift Shop (solos edited out of master take) 1:22 9 Los Mariachis 4:29 10 Los Mariachis 9:05 11 Los Mariachis 14:54 12 A Colloquial Dream (breakdown) 0:33 13 A Colloquial Dream (breakdown) 3:22 Are you really confused now? I have to say I've been playing the "session footage" as I type this, and I'm loving it. YMMV!

In addition.

You can probably keep the French set. I made the switch, but I'm a huge fan of this band. The fragments give you some studio chatter and a little insight into Mingus' studio methods. Nothing earthshattering. Disc one is 77 minutes long and disc two is 79, if that helps. The sound is great on both versions

"Summertime" = Albert Ayler. The only other time that came close was a duet by Jodie Christian and Von Freeman at Ratso's in the '80s.

Albert Ayler's "Ghosts" makes me jump up and dance. So does Horace Parlan's "Us Three"!