Chuck Nessa

I dig them too and didn't want to imply that I didn't. Those guys get their point across in their own way and chops and polish aren't a part of it - it wouldn't be the same any other way. You don't have to be a virtuoso to get your point across, but virtuosity shouldn't count against you either. For once Mister Z, I have a huge problem with something you said. Those guys have more chops than needed for a "real" message. There are thousands of "faster/cleaner" players out there executing "empty nothings". Being able to communicate is the ultimate "chops" - don't have much to do with tight lips, finger speed, etc. This sounds like the "Monk wars" all over again.

How the hell did Fritz get into this discussion?

AND the band recorded much of the same material 5 weeks later "at the jazz corner of the world".

If you are interested in Henderson, avoiding the Classics is a big mistake. I have all of them and the 2 Neatwork suppliments.

Steve's original question seems to have been lost in the flurry of posts. This was not meant as a "time machine" question. Steve seems to have ignored the results as well. I hope he returns.

Granz didn't stop recording jam sessions for Verve, he just started giving the sessions names like Sittin' In, Jazz Giants of '58, Tour de Force, etc.

Get the Bobo Stensen box.

hey, Meester Mooster, if you need any Okka Disks I'm your big supplier daddy.

Don't think anyone has mentioned the 2 (Japanese) Why Not dates, Air Song and Air Raid. These are well recorded, beautifully played dates. India Navigation reissued them in the US. I'm more than "happy" Threadgill renamed the band after Steve McCall was ousted. It was a different band. BTW, I'm with Sangrey about all of Threadgill's music. For me he's one of a number of guys (in Chicago) in the '60s & '70s creating their own "musical world". Roscoe, Braxton, Henry and Leo Smith all created something really personal and they all continue. We have Muhal to thank for the "atmosphere" and more for these creations.

Is is getting hot in here?

FWIW the former GM of Charly, Joop Visser, now runs the Proper operation.

We had Globe Unity at the Chicago Jazz Festival in the early '80s. Bill Smith said the audience reaction was "just like Berlin"!

That's good news! Maybe he'll be impressed enough to reissue Nonaah for me! Put me on that list also Chuck! Yeah, that's next. Then maybe Saga of the Outlaws.

Happy, happy.

How many of you Classics collectors are buying the Neatwork companion cds? I have about a dozen of them so far.

Do not overlook the Billy Banks/Jack Bland Rhythmakers sessions. Wonderful Red and Pee Wee too.

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What a bunch of crap. Smiley is nice, Wild Honey was nice, etc. Time to grow beyond this stuff. I hope Brian finds peace. Albert is dead.

Some how, I knew that would interest you.

Creative Improvisers Orchestra "The Sky Cries the Blues" with Leo Smith, Oliver Lake, Bobby Naughton, Marty Erlich, Joe Fonda, Gerry Hemingway, etc. This is a 16 piece orchestra playing 2 pieces by Smith and one each by Naughton and Hemingway.

Estates and claims on them can be a mess. Sometimes you just need to move ahead if something is to happen. After negotiations with the estates of Bird, Chet, Mingus, etc I'm a bit "dazed" by the idea of "the right thing". At one point, while trying to pay "somebody", I ran into a situation where the family lawyer said "The estate is closed and distributed - new activity presents problems for all of us." This was resolved by a check for $1000 to the family - don't know the lawyer's cut. Under circumstances like this, labels have some latitude. Dean Blackwood seems to be an OK guy, enjoy the music.

"Their man" CN was sitting at the corner of the bar, 5 feet from the band and directly under the closest drain from the storm off the lake. Great (and memorable) night. Never been to the club before, but the folks were dandy and the band was a blast. Pleased to meet and talk to Arno after years of "knowing about him". A wonderful evening all 'round.

RCA began regularly recording their symphonic dates in stereo in the first quarter of 1954.

Let this thread die.