JETman

All very strange. I did notice that Storyville released this within the last year. How the material reverted to them (they don't usually bootleg material) is anyone's guess. I have a VERVE Japanese 2xcd mini lp version released in the late 90s or early 00s, I think.

Patti Brown?

Yeah, but fwiw, it is expressly ILLEGAL for anyone who obtains promo copies from record labels to sell them for profit. So that puts Dusty Groove on both sides of the fence. On one hand, they finally woke up a few years ago and stopped selling black market Euro releases. On the other hand, they continue to resell promos that they shouldn't have bought in the first place.

The transfers are definitely up to Mosaic's high standards. I couldn't tell you how they compare to previous releases, though.

Earl Hines - discs 1 & 2. Great waking up music for a Sunday morning.

Johnny Winter! Now there is a White Bluesman (in his heyday) who could play it loud and mean. Faster, tougher, more authentic, and more 'Heavy", than any Englishmen. The real man's Stevie Ray Vaughan. You go ahead and write a letter to your local Congressman.

They could have acknowledged the tunes they stole(Wille Dixon, et al) Everybody stole. It was the nature of the beast. Many have had a "hard-on" for Zep from the beginning. Nothing new. I also found it funny that the "Roosky" who was honored that night wasn't even mentioned here. Surely a citizen of the former Soviet Union (the "Evil Empire") who sought political asylum during the height of the Cold War being honored by the American gov't would make for a more tantalizing/polarizing discussion. After all, it's not like there's been a shortage of equally talented American ballet dancers in our history (other than Edward Villella, who was so honored in 1997).

A miracle has finally happened on this last day of the season of light. You said something intelligent. Now please take your leave. Its called showmanship. Back off, Jack!

I think that the Allman Brothers could play and compose as well as Zep and I much preferred them. Opinion and reality rarely intersect.

Actually, the art of saying "nothing" remains par for the course on this board. No matter what you or anyone else here wants to say to deflect the issue from where it originally stood in this thread, the act of indignantly whining about why American jazz artists haven't been appropriately recognized by the government of these United States by calling English artists who are derogatory names is just bad form. Is Led Zeppelin to blame for this? Should Led Zeppelin be blamed for the fact that NO American rock band could touch them with a ten foot pole? Was it the band's duty to publicly name the sources for its "blues"? Does the fact that they didn't take away from their accomplishments? I answer a resounding "NO" to all. Get off the high horse and get real.

And the Jets are still doing things half-assed. Ryan should've been shown the door as well.

Caramoor!

Dick Garcia was a friend of my mom's family. I believe he passed long ago. As far as I know Dick Garcia (born in 1931) is still alive. Yes, Dick Garcia is still around, and living in his parents' house in Astoria, NY., according to a relative I contacted on the net. He practices zen buddhism, and is living in seclusion. His phone # is in the White Pages. Thanks for finding this out. I'll let my dad know. He played at my folks' wedding reception back in 1951.

All of the casual discounting of the British Invasion aside, what I really would like to know is: if the Kennedy Center decides to honor rock and roll (an arguably American musical form), which AMERICAN would have been a more appropriate choice to carry the flag than the talentless "blimeys" who were chosen?

If the greatest rock and roll band is not worthy of honor then none is. And, there are no American acts worthy of such an honor in the genre. The "limeys", as you so eloquently call them. took an "American" music, put it through a blender, and did it better than any American to date has ever done it. Simply put, we have not stepped up to the plate to match the results of the British Invasion. If you actually believe this and you're not just looking for another argument - seems to be your modus operandi - you had better do some serious listening. I actually believe this, after decades of serious listening. It was your initial comment which indicated ignorance. General rule of thumb -- if you don't want to be called out, don't say it. Your anger/whining over jazz not being recognized on a national level is misplaced, naive and offensive to boot, AND you seem to conveniently forget Jimmy Carter's little jazz party. Name one American rock band since the invasion which has melded the elements in a better way and more successfully than Led Zeppelin. Go ahead --- I dare ya. You're trying to distract from the issue at hand. I know that if I were a "blimey", I'd sure as hell be offended.

My understanding of how this works at the Kennedy Center is that the Artist being honored is typically paid tribute by others influenced by him or her and generally they seem to be of a younger generation than the honoree. Given that Beck is rather more of a contemporary of Zep's and arguably as much as or more of an influence on Page than the other way around, then it would not make sense for Beck to be honoring Zep. That would be kind of like McCartney honoring Badfinger! ha ha. Beck an influence on Page? Picture that. All the Clapton "God" talk aside, Mr. Page was THE preeminent blues-influenced rock guitarist in England during the early to mid 60s. Like Beck, he was influenced by American blues musicians. What some here don't seem to get is that the Kennedy Center was essentially honoring the American art form by honoring Buddy Guy and Led Zeppelin. And, as far as validity and the inane post above goes, rock and jazz are equal bastard step-children of the blues. IF America had produced a rock act even close to the equal of Led Zeppelin in influence and virtuosity, I'm sure that act would have been honored before the "blimeys". Like I said above, the bigger reason that it wouldn't have made sense for Beck to honor Zeppelin was that Beck was jealous of Zeppelin. You want some more negative/jealous homeland reaction to Led Zeppelin, check out Keith Richards' ridiculous interview on you tube.

I'm afraid this just circles back to what I originally said about American rock acts. Our music. but the "blimeys" do/did it better. When you think about it, the Kennedy Center chose to honor an American art form (see Buddy Guy) in the grander scheme of things. It picked the greatest purveyor of that art form to accomplish its goal. No reason to get offended. I would've loved to have seen Mr. Secor's reaction if the Center had chosen Kiss instead.

Not many people know this, but the Busch family nicked the "Budweiser" name from a similarly named Czech beer. The only reason I know this is because I used to hear it pretty frequently from the "escaped from Czechoslovakia" parents of one of my best friends growing up. Pilsner Urquel (not the one imported for sale here) is actually an AWESOME beer. My buddy used to sneak a few bottles back from his occasional returns to the homeland. Bud is crap, and has always been crap. Gotta love the Busches and their ill-gotten gains. Hey, but wait a minute, that's what success in American business is all about.

Although I agree that Beck has been "pretty sleepy in recent years" (actually ALWAYS for me), Hart was somewhat of a revelation to me. Ballsy chick who could sing her ass off. I thought Raitt was good as well, but she doesn't have the same power in her singing, nor does she have the chops in her playing that Beck does (regardless of how cold he leaves me). Nice tributes, both. I thought the sea of bowler hats was a damn nice touch as well.

Sheesh. Nice 'tude. Jazz is not the only genre out there. If the greatest rock and roll band is not worthy of honor then none is. And, there are no American acts worthy of such an honor in the genre. The "limeys", as you so eloquently call them. took an "American" music, put it through a blender, and did it better than any American to date has ever done it. Simply put, we have not stepped up to the plate to match the results of the British Invasion.

Not a slight. It's well known that Beck was jealous of Zep's success. I believe he felt that Jimmy stole the thunder of the JB Group. It just turned out that Jimmy was smart enough to pick the superior singer and musicians to back him up. I believe they're on friendly terms again, though.

That's a disappointment. The listing says "CD" and the cover says "2 CD Set". I guess it should have said "2 CD-R Set". Lots of record companies are doing this these days, mostly English. Candid comes to mind.

I agree. Gee, maybe Brubeck was hipper than most people think, after all.

did you?

Actually it has been out on this CD: The story behind this is that Ammons recorded a couple of albums for Argo in Chicago 1961, but since he was under contract with Prestige, Argo had to pull the albums from the market, and they were later released on Prestige. The other one was Just Jug, which reappeared on Prestige as Live! In Chicago. Yes, I've found this out since I posted that over 8 months ago!