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That's the one I can download on Amazon. I am hesitant to track down OJC CDs anymore because they might be CDrs.

And I am realizing I still barely have started collecting Bird, a big hole in my collection. I am not a huge fan of box sets, but it seems the best way to collect Bird on CD unless I just get some of those European PD sets, but those are mostly Master Takes. Same with Prez. The completeness bug is also for me limited to a few artists who have been my favorites for many years. I will get any Lee Morgan I can, so this set is for me, but I certainly am not getting the multiple Resonance Bill Evans live dates. I have a few of his recordings, they are wonderful, but I never felt a need to get the various complete sets over the years. There is an alternative approach to issuing these types of lo-fi historical recordings that does not seem to have been considered - issuing them as downloads only. There is only so much that can be done to make them sound better, so why not go this route? Of course, all the musicians and estates still need to be compensated per the Union rules, and that is not 'cheap' but at least there are savings in terms of packaging. This is the obvious solution for the Left Bank tapes, as well as for the 1971 Lee Morgan session alluded to above. The sound is too poor and distorted for a luxury release with 50-page booklet chock full of essays and photos, but I am sure hardcore Lee fans would be willing to pay a few bucks for a download to hear Billy and Lee take on Absolutions for 40 minutes. Vinyl may have surpassed CDs, but not downloads (I think). Bertrand. PS: Here is one that should come out - the sound is good because it was recorded by VOA. The Library of Congress has the Blakey Newport 1961 date with Wayne Shorter and Kenny Dorham (subbing for Lee) - their only known recorded meeting. There are only two tunes, although there may be a third (there's a story behind that which I hope to resolve when I can go back there). It is only 20-30 minutes of music. So what do you add to it? The 1959 date with Morgan and Mobley (40 minutes). Yes, it has been out as a European boot and on Wolfgang, but so what? They could also add the two songs from the Methodist Church single as a bonus (8 minutes), although I am not sure if the Master Tape exists anymore, they may have to be dubbed from the 45. This would be a Blakey CD that would get attention, I think. PS: Can't find the Methodist Church thing on YouTube anymore, and the website is down for the discography. It was 1959 but with Jerome Richardson on baritone in lieu of Mobley or Shorter.

Does Grant solo a lot on these? Thanks. Rusty Bryant: Rusty Bryant Returns 2/17/69 Charles Kynard: The Soul Brotherhood 3/10/69 Charles Kynard: Afro-Disiac 4/6/70

That is why they should be in an archive and not commercialized. Ironically, they told the musicians that the recordings were 'for the archive'. What archive?

A lot of Slug's dates are listed in the discography, but there is no knowledge of any recordings. Could they exist? Possibly.

This is not one I have heard was recorded, but with Left Bank there are many unknowns...

Joe Henderson Discography (jazzdiscography.com) He stayed longer with Horace than I realized. Lots of leader gigs with no known recording. This was new to me (I knew about the Vanguard gigs). A gig at an Opera House has a higher probability of a recording: Date: February 24-25, 1967 Location: Civic Opera House, Chicago, IL Label: [no known recording] Miles Davis (ldr), Joe Henderson, Wayne Shorter (ts), Miles Davis (t) a. [unknown titles] Chicago Defender: 18 February 1967, p.13 DB: 6 April 1967 (vol. 34 no. 7), p.5 reports, The World Series of Jazz, headlining the Miles Davis Sextet (tenorist Joe Henderson was added to the group)...brought out large audiences for its three performances at the Civic Opera House last month..." Darlene Chan might know about this one: Date: April 1967 Location: UC Berkeley Jazz Festival, Berkeley, CA Label: [no known recording] Miles Davis (ldr), Joe Henderson, Wayne Shorter (ts), Miles Davis (t) a. [unknown titles] SF Examiner Friday, 6 October 1995. "In April 1967, two months before the Monterey Pop Festival, the UC Fraternity Council's Spring Week activities included a two-day jazz festival featuring such performers as the Miles Davis Sextet (with Wayne Shorter and Joe Henderson on saxes), the Modern Jazz Quartet, Horace Silver Quintet and the Bill Evans trio." The gig with Booker Ervin in Laurel, MD might be nice to find...

Oh, just wondering aloud.

They have been where they have always been. It's just a matter of a label licensing it and paying all the costs related to releasing it, It's short though so it probably has to be paired with something else... I've heard the Joe Henderson from the Both/And, it's great. Some of it came out on LP as Jazz Patterns (just like some Freddie Hubbard from the Both/And was bootlegged on LP as well). Ironically, it's from the same tour as the Live at the Lighthouse Joe Henderson recordings. Joe was on Milestone at the time which is now Concord. As for the rest, I don't think a consultant to a label is going to get you the clearance you need. No, but he has to respond to me so I know that I have to then ask for clearance from someone who actually works at the label, either the president or someone below. Bypassing the consultant would have been preferable, but apparently I did not have the choice. They may trust his opinion, but if he blocks anyone from trying to get clearance he is essentially depriving them of a possible income source. I really just need a name of the person to whom one would request the clearance. Good that the other Monterey tracks are not lost, as some had speculated in the past. I guess they are at Stanford. Why all three did not come out on that compilation is a mystery. I've heard the Joe Henderson from the Both/And This other guy may have a different night or different tunes, kind of like the Lee Morgan situation. I want to get it transferred anyway for preservation purposes and to know what he has. Releasability discussions are far down the road. Concord needs to get new management first. Who was Joe Henderson signed with in 1983?

It has come up several times that we are wondering what happened to the other tracks from Monterey. If they have been located, great, but that does not guarantee a release any time soon. No one wants to be Palo-Altoed, especially when THAT dreaded tape-hoarding, not a fuck-about-jazz giving label is involved. Hint: they are named after a brand of grape jelly. I am not sworn to secrecy on my end having no ties to any record label, so I can say that the same guy who had some Lee Both/And tapes also approached me about some Joe Henderson from the Both/And. I offered to help him get it transferred (ie give him bread) to see if it overlaps with already released material, but we are not there yet. He would probably have to pitch it to the aforementioned label, which has right of first refusal but will neither be interested nor give clearance to another label to release it, even for a fee. How anything ever gets done at the big labels is indeed a question I often ponder. When someone out of the goodness of their heart does all the legwork to make a self-proclaimed gatekeeper aware of a recording and the individual cannot be bothered to respond after three months to inform the person that the label is not interested, thus precluding the possibility of obtaining clearance to propose it to another label, that is tape-hoarding. And just plain rude. Bertrand.

1) The Fresh Sound is from the Both/And. If you remember, a gentleman posted a few years ago that he had tapes from that gig. The sound was better and I think there were some other tracks not on the FS. 2) I do not believe The Chief was performed during the Lighthouse residency, nor was Rakin' and Scrapin'. The discography above confirms my memory. 3) The 'detective' was involved in the Art Blakey Just Cooolin' release, I think that's it so far. That was not a new discovery, just a rethinking. Now, the Lee/Billy band...too bad there's not this much of THAT...but how much of it could there be, do we have Lee's itinerary on file any where? There is a very distorted recording from Virginia in November 1971, with Higgins instead of Waits. Probably not releasable.

I am sure it is not a Universal Mandate and only a Resonance thing. NOT BY MILES DAVIS!!! Max Roach even says so at Newport in 1958, it is in the Mosaic Box.

Charles McPherson Saturday 12/19 at 3PM EST. Charles McPherson Concert Dec 19 — GMF - Global Music Foundation (gmfjazzsummit.com)

I am happy to see that many of you are starting to pick up on some issues that have concerned me for a while. There is far too much effort spent on the packaging, that is one of my concerns. The Grant Green could have included some tracks with Kenny Burrell, as anyone who watches the YouTube video from Maison de la Radio can tell (whoever posted that one is my hero). I am sure they left them off to avoid paying KB. Or maybe they did not fit on the vinyl, who knows.

Maybe the assumption was that the LP buyers would be up in arms if they knew the CD had more material. So they pruned both. I am not saying that is a valid reason, just that it is the reason. I am so over this jazz detective crap. A true detective would have 'detected' the tape speed problems.

Yes.

That's too bad, but why couldn't some agreement be reached in the future?

Is Omnivore aware of their existence?

Really? She played it on the air? Did you happen to record

Steeplechase Black Saint Soul Note Any Fantasy titles repressed by Concord

Gary Bartz also plays a curved soprano.

Oh, it was no all the sixties dates?

Where was the acetate hiding all these years?

HANK MOBLEY - WORKOUT (UCCQ-5038, 2014) March 26, 1961 Add take 19 Three Coins In The Fountain (alt) (4:49) (WITH GUITAR) Was this in the Mobley Mosaic set?

How many more Atlantic sessions lost in the fire may not be totally lost? Where do they keep their other reference acetates?