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Interesting ! I knew "The Quota" from a Red Garland LP on which Jimmy Heath is playing. Some guy had it, it must have been in the 70´s, we knew Garland from those early Miles LPs. I like Jimmy Heath´s compositions. That´s how I remember him best. It´s interesting there are quite a few saxophone players whom I associate more as composers, like Jimmy Heath, Gigi Grice, Benny Golson. I don´t think so much about their playing, I think there tunes....
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Monk live - best recordings not yet in my collection
Gheorghe replied to EKE BBB's topic in Recommendations
So much Monk ! I never was a completist, but on Monk live albums I sure have the Five Spot on River Side, and something, a double album on CBS, and there is a bootleg maybe from Italy earlier than the CBS, which has the best versions of "Off Minor" and "Evidence" I ever heard. Also a fine version of "Jacky-ing". The 1969 Monk in Paris I have on DVD, they have quite unknown bassist and drummer, but Philly Joe Jones sits in. And there is some bonus of Monk solo playing Ellington. I never saw the Swiss Concorde album and might have to look for it on discogs.... I further have a double CD "Last Monk" or something like that, with a fine quartet with Monk´s son and with Dave Holland on bass. -
I have never heard about this album. Is this a pianoless quartet, I mean KD, Ernie Henry , b and dr ? I heard a lot of Ernie Henry from classic bop sessions with Tadd Dameron and Fats Navarro, and with the Dizzy Gillespie Big Band, and the later one as "Brilliant Corners" but not very much. Kenny Dorham I love very much. I don´t have many albums, but sure something with Bird or other bebop boys, the session with Monk, and some BN from the mid 50´s and 60´s. He has a very interesting sound, something "bitter sweet" , and a wonderful composer. That´s what I have studied about him and took with me. Ernie Henry is fine but I think for alto saxophone I studied more Jackie McLean.
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The strange thing is I discovered Ellington (or his compositions) thru this LP, and thru Mingus (his Ellington Medley on "Mingus at Monterey"). In my case it was just that generation, those late 60´s early 70´s hipsters who were something like older brothers and sisters to me. Mingus and Monk were considered "cool" so that´s were I started to pick up the stuff. But I admit it´s the wrong way chronologically. I remember a name musician told me he had got into jazz thru his parents who heard some Ellington on radio and thats how it started, and when I confessed that I had "discovered" Ellington´s music thru listening to Mingus, he said "that´s also a good start". Well I didn´t have parents who would have listened to jazz on radio or so. I started from zero knowledge.
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I don´t have this one, but it looks very similar to the 5 Steeplechase LP´s of "Golden Circle" with the same personnel. I remember those "Golden Circle" tracks left me with mixed feelings, since it´s a bad tuned piano, and the bassist and drummer seemed to be too much in awe of playing with Bud. If Bud want´s to give them some solo space they are very reluctant. To work as a single with local rhythm sections if they don´t really know the music can be a drag and it seems that in Stockholm Bud was quite "trapped" in that situation. Maybe this explains a certain monotony in the program. Too many long extended 12 bar tunes (Blues in the Closet, Straight No Chaser, Relaxin´ at Camarillo, etc.). I think I have heard the Oslo tracks too at someone´s place, it´s very similar to the swedish tracks, but maybe the piano is better tuned.....
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Thank you @opatio
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Dear friends. It must have been around 1977, maybe 1978, when there was at the radio jazz program a tune from Weather Report that I liked but don´t know the title. It was a very diatonic little theme, an almost pastoral feeling with a quiet groove, and the theme was always repeated. I think it had a more "foggy" intro, and then came the gentle rhythm with that little motiv that was repeated. Can someone help me ? Any idea what tune it could have been ?
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Yes that´s it ! It´s a wonderful tune to start a set at a club date.
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Is this the one that features "Let´s Call This" ? I love that tune and play it.
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oh yeah ! This was, after my first Mingus album (3-LP Set Paris 1964) the second Mingus album I had. I remember after hearing the complete Paris Concert and declaring that I´ll be a Mingus fan (I was so much impressed by that music), my mother made me a surprise and bought me that "Blues & Roots" which I still like very much. I could write so much about Mingus......who was a main inspiration for me to understand the music at an early age. He was practically "my point of departure" for a live long journey....
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IMHO the very best VSOP until then. This one was a "must have" among the jazz freaks in my high school class (I think it was shortly before the "bac" in 1978 and one guy had it and we all came together to listen to it and make cassette tapes.... Just fantastic, and that incredible live version of "Red Clay", also a favourite album / composition among us youngsters...
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Well yes, those are photos of the musicians, but before the gig was made. I have a very nice actual foto from the gig, but I don´t know how to attach, if I become the message that the file is to large. I don´t know about "Fotos verkleinern"..
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Here a photo of Allan from the Thursday-gig. I also have a band photo but it´s too large to post it here and I don´t have a program or knowledge to make it smaller.
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Oh yes, I had some of those "Electra Musician" albums . I think it was a very very short lived label and it was started by Bruce Lundvall after he left Columbia and took his main artists, Dexter and Woody with him. It has some of the best cover photo of Dexter, this and "Manhattan Symphony" , but the album itself is not as good as Manhattan Symphony. First, Manhatten Symphony is like a typical Dexter Gordon Set from a concert/club date (I have a live tape made from Village Vanguard from the same time). They splitted this, one side with Shirley Scott, the other with his regular working quartet....., and that´s not what I think is ideal. For me anyway since I´m not the biggest fan of organ, that´s an own category IMHO.... And that´s pity, since Dexters discography after his leaving CBS became quite scarce.
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I love that double CD, and very much the tunes where Kenny Burrell sit´s in. Wonderful compositions by Dorham too!
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Same here. Never listened to it closley. I have other KB recordings I prefer. All other BN studio recordings and the live recording "On View at Five Spot".
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Well for the short live Chambers had (I think he was only 35 when he died), 355 sessions is very much. I never could compile a discopgraphy since I´m not a collector. Of course, in my youth I bought most albums since I was mostly learning the music and the musicians. Later it was more, like...if fellow musicians talked about it, or ....my wife saw something and guessed that I might like it and might not have it, or sometimes if some record was recommended here , I tried to bring both the LP´s and the CD´s in alphabetic order where they are stapled, but.....you know, you just pick out one album and don´t have the time to put it back where it was..... And I think in an other under-forum here I saw some examples of digitalized discopgraphys, but I never could do it tehnically or mentally,...
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Well he may not read this, but I love him, I saw him live, sad to say only one time, but with Billy Higgins. His "Amsterdam After Dark" is one of my favourite acoustic jazz records. I have watched some of his recent live streams at Small´s . He was playing astonishing well, but I was a little scared about that completly vacant look of him. Like from another world. The way he is sittin there and his vacant look is astonishing similar to Bud Powell. Just look here, how similar !
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oh oh ! This is some of my very favourite musicians here. I fell in love with Dave Liebman since the days of his playing with Miles, and hearing him live as a leader, he was my favourite tenor saxophonist when I was a kid and teenager. Somehow I lost the trace and I have heard about "Pendulum" but don´t have the rrecord. This might be something. Al Foster always was my favourite drummer. Also since Miles in those 70´s, ...... and of course for acoustic jazz as well. If I could choose a famous rhythm section I´d have Buster Williams and Al Foster....
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This is quite a strange record. I got it as a birthday present from my wife since she saw that it doesn´t seem to be similar to what she saw from my Monk albums (BN, Prestige). I don´t know what it has to do with the film, the first CD is nice as ever played Monk repertory with Barney Wilen added to the usual Monk musicians. The strangest think is that idea to play "Light Blue" with an early attempt to play a "rock rhythm" which led me into some speculations.....Monk claimed that he hated rock, but maybe Rockers loved Monk. And maybe a fusion band around the time of my teens would have played it that way. But it seems that Art Taylor had hard difficulties to play that beat. On Disc 2 there are endless and exhausting tries to get that beat straight, I mean the GREAT ART TAYLOR, but here he sounds like if you get a 13 old kid to try for the first time to play a rock beat on a set of drums..... Very very strange the whole thing....
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Jamil Nasser and Buster Smith were among the long list of Americans in Paris. If I remember right, they are on the Dolphy Berlin Concert, I love that album. I have to very fine Indrees Suliman stuff on "Americans in Europe" where he plays in quintet format with Byas and Bud, and in quartet format without Byas. And he is also very fine on the Byas-Bud album "A Tribute to Cannonball" (I never understood the title, since there is no Cannonball related tune on it, or maybe did Cannonball play "Jeannine" ?
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he really was, but maybe less than Paul Chambers, Doug Watkins and Ron Carter, is that possible ?
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ad 1) 100% agree ! ad 2) You will be surprised: He LOVED Art Tatum, and it was his mother who listened to Art Tatum for hours. So it is even possible that he became interested in jazz thru hearing that Art Tatum records. I also love Art Tatum and listen very very carefully to him. His renditions of songs, those incredible chord modulations, he intro´s , his gettin into the theme with that wonderful left hand stride with decimes in it. WONDERFUL ! Art Tatum is so important, a genius ! So it was not about if a pianist plays many notes and so on, it was "play something, but not just play, SAY something. The tragic part of the story was, that my buddies mother was alcoolic and died in her early 50´s when he was 16, and at 17 he was a father...., well we were a weird bunch of guys then..... Oscar Peterson somehow was considered a "Streber-Typ". My buddy ´n me we looked weird but were good students. I remember when it was for Abitur, that we had to do our clausur in Latin it was programmed for 5 hours (traducere of Tacitus) and we finished after an hour and drove with the motorcicly to a "Wirtshaus" to have some beers and schnitzel.....😄
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I remember there was a time I was less playing my self and was listening to more easy listening jazz like this one. It was my music on hot summer nights, with the windows open and just that sound, those long long tunes.... That was the time when I didn´t want to figure out stuff like I did earlier and like I do now, it was just the time for spinning records with really long tunes, like this, like "Long Drink of the Blues" etc...... Really a great musician. I never saw him live, since sorry to say I saw Woody Shaw only after that period, I mean when he had Steve Turré on trombone instead of Carter Jefferson. So I know him from records only. Is it true that he died very early, like Woody Shaw ?
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The error was MINE ! I had told that class mate that "Dameron played with Miles and with Trane" though from the album cover it was clear that it was Tadd´s date and Trane was playing with HIM. Definitly right, but it is possible that during that time the names I knew and the names that would impress my class-mate was Miles, Trane, so I just may have told him about an until then unknown musician Tadd Dameron in context with those two (Miles ´n Trane). Yes, I had a Prestige album with a red cover and a large picture of Tadd playing on piano. Later, when I didn´t have a pickup, I bought a CD with a cover with those birds on it . That classmate, after some nights of listening to records were we spinned also the "Blaue Dameron Platte" (the Musidisc),and after some beers my classmate said "Dieser Dameron da von Dir, der is eh cool, der scheißt sich nix mit irgendwelchem Herumw.....sen mit 100.000 Noten wie der Ur-Streber Oscar Peterson. Der Dameron setzt sich hin, spielt ein kleines Solo-chen und das ist cool!. ". That´s how we guys were then. Not much knowledge about who is the leader, naming records after the colour of the cover (die blaue Dameronplatte, die grüne Navarroplatte, die rote Miles Davis platte -- that was the italian "Kings of Jazz" )...... just the music and our learing the music was what counted.
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