Daniel A

Here's a link to a Lee Morgan discography: http://www014.upp.so-net.ne.jp/lee/lee/leeabm08.htm There are links to the sessions included in the Blakey set to the upper right.

Heres one for splitting MP3s: http://www.mpesch3.de/

Happy Birthday, Reinier!

Goldmine gradings: http://www.recordcollectorsguild.org/modul...d=17&page=1

To round off this story, in his last reply to me the seller said he was sorry the LP did not meet my expectations. I've had a lot more hassle getting a refund before. The worst seller I've encountered was in fact from the UK. Actually, according to the goldmine gradings even a "G" record should "play through without skipping".

What happens in this case is that the stylus jumps further to another groove altogether four or five spins in a row. Since I got my money back I'm not feeling ripped-off. I just thought it incredible someone would defend the grading, even with recorded evidence. And Dan, I fully accept your apology. In fact, for a moment I was flattered anyone would take me for a native English speaker. But then it turned out you confused me with that Russian guy ... and BTW, don't ask him about my Russian, because it is bad beyond description...

For those who didn't know this album was reissued again in September; I believe it comes in jewelcase this time. The price is 1800 Yen, about $15. Including shipping from Hiroshi Tanno it shouldn't be too much over 20 dollars to the US. There have been previous threads about the merits of this album. I think it's good rather than great, but far from forgettable.

An update: today someone left this seller (who previuosly had only 1 negative feedback, but 5000+ positive from the last year) negative feedback for seven items in a row! Shortly after, all the negative feedback was "mutually withdrawn".

Sorry for being unclear! To clarify: My question in the post above mentioning visual grading was hypothetical. In the case of this LP, the item description did not mention whether the grading was visual, but instead something to the effect that it wasn't too bad at all; "quelques craquements ponctuels sans consequences" (which would mean something like "occasional crackles without consequences"). I didn't find more skips, although I haven't listened to the whole LP. But there was more crackle than I would accept for 'VG+'. Very shiny and nice surface, but with a couple of really long, visible scratches. I'm not sure if a "Stupid Swede" is even worse... Anyway, I was just going to say that I've gotten several really nice LPs in great condition from a French eBayer, but then I realized he's an American expatriate... However, in general I have nothing but nice memories from France, which I used to visit every summer for many years.

Then the question is: If a record is stated as visually graded "VG+", looks like a "VG+" but skips all the time - is it still graded correctly? Edit: the record I got did not even look like "VG+", but on the other hand; the scratch which caused the skips did not look as bad as some others.

I agree with all of you. I should have known better, really... Absolutely true. And I suppose the state of the stylus matters, as well as the counterweight and anti-skating settings, etc. My stylus is not new, but I think it's good enough. None of my other ever LPs skips, and some of them are "true VG", perhaps even true "VG-"...

Wasn't that the one that got the Parisian scene, sort of 'a la Reach Out' ? I think it just showed some railroad tracks and a train station.

Not that I really need to ask you this, because I'm convinced what the answer should be, but I was stunned and slightly irritated about the reaction from an eBay seller. I won an auction for an LP from France (quite cheap, I must admit - shipping was twice the price of the LP). It was stated as 'VG+'. While the record is glossy and looks rather decent at a very quick glance, there are a couple of really serious scratches. Less than 30 seconds into the first track, there are at least four skips within ten seconds. I made an MP3 sound clip of the first minute of playback and mailed it to the seller, who has 99.9% positive feedback, and had already left positive feedback for me as soon as payment had been sent. I specified the time range where the skips were. To my astonishment the seller then tells me he cannot hear any problems. He would have graded it 'EX' if it didn't have certain "defects", which is to be expected for a 'VG+' record'. He goes on suggestsing that I only buy 'EX' or possibly 'VG++' discs, because "one cannot require of a VG+ disc to be in very good state". Then he sent me a refund anyway. But why would he take that somewhat unreasonable position if he would nevertheless refund the money? If he doesn't hear the skips, I can't understand how he can be dealing with used LPs at all. My limited experience of buying LPs from eBay is that sellers tend to overgrade even more now than a couple of years ago.

All his item descriptions say "Quantity: 99". Don't know what's up with that, because even those with normal prices say "Quantity: 99". I checked another UK Amazon Marketplace seller at random. His descriptions said "Quantity: 10"...

He also claims that - after Desmond asked him why they didn't have more original tunes in the band - he wrote "In Your Own Sweet Way" and another tune in 30 minutes. This is from Len Lyons' "The Great Jazz Pianists" (Da Capo Press, 1983): Brubeck: 'In Your Own Sweet Way' was the first original that I'd written in years. It was about '52 or '53. We had just done a concert in upstate New York, and back at the hotel Paul said, "We really need some original material", because we'd been doing practically all standards. "We better find somebody to write some", Paul said. I looked at him and said, "You got to be kidding. I'm a composer. I can write two originals in a half hour." So I sat down and wrote 'In Your Own Sweet Way' and a piece called 'The Waltz' in thirty minutes just to show him. Paul titled 'In Your Own Sweet Way.' He really liked it. I don't think either of us liked 'The Waltz'. On 'Take five' (he didn't claim so much credit for that as I thought): That was written in '59, when we were getting ready for the Time Out album. I told the guys the album should include unusual time signatures. Joe Morello had been messing around with a 5/4 beat when he was warming up, and Paul was always intrigued by it. So I said, "You guys write the one in five/four because I know you've been fooling around with it." Paul came to rehearsal with two themes, but he said he hadn't gotten anything on paper. I had him play the two themes, and right away I said, "You've got a tune right there. Use the second theme for the bridge." That's how it happened. My wife and I wrote lyrics for it later. Suddenly it's being sung a lot, like by Al Jarreau. Carmen McRae was the first singer to record it. It's hard to believe that 'Take Five' was something the avearge musician could not play. Now any studio guys could probably play it without any problem. High school kids don't even think twice about it now. At the time the public was more ready for that than the musicians.

I may be of no help at all at this point, but it appears as if the tracks are listed in a certain order on the cover, like for example on BLP 5018: http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Record/BlueNote1/bn10'%20193.jpg they are - when listed - in the same order when appearing on other covers as well (look for 5018): http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Record/BlueNote1/bn10'%20213.jpg Then the order given on the covers may differ from the actual LPs anyway, of course.

BTW, doesn't Brubeck claim to have co-written 'Take Five'?

I'm not sure if the track listings are in running order on the back covers, but this might be a lead: http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Record/BlueNote1/index.htm

I happened to read a lot of old threads on BN LPs recently, so I know where to find some anwers to this one too. >Here<

Hi Dmitry. I happened to find this thread in a search recently. Some info on the subject from Allan Songer here and from Peter A here. Obviously, I'm not sidewinder, but I suppose it's because it's got no "ear"...

On a related note: it would be good if the search function could be made to work with multiple word searches, though.

Some CDs arrived in the mail today: Yoh Yamada 'In the Pleasant Shade' (Alfa, 1998) Yoh Yamada (as); Cyrus Chestnut (p); George Mraz (b); Billy Drummond (dr) Dick Hyman 'Brasilian Impressions' (Command, 1966) Dick Hyman with a predictable line-up of 60s studio musicians (as Romeo Penque ) David Hazeltine 'Alfie' (Venus Records, 2006) David Hazeltine (p); David Williams (b); Joe Farnsworth (dr) Jackie McLean 'A Fickle Sonance' (BN, 1961) The TOCJ-4089; more easy on the ear than the USRVG. Renee Rosnes 'Renee Rosnes With The Danish Radio Big Band' (BN, 2001) Unfortunately, it's a Cactus Datashield non-CD. Since Caiman ships from the US I though it would turn out differently, but alas... My first copy controlled CD of any kind. Geoffrey Keezer 'Sublime - Honoring the Music of hank Jones' (Telarc, 2002) Keezer in piano duets with Kenny Barron, Chick Corea, Benny Green and Mulgrew Miller. Keezer is not one of favorites, but some of the other pianists are. Aside from Hank Jones, of course!

I think the titles are correct on the LP. If I remember correctly the tracks from side 2 of the LP were mistakenly placed at the beginning of the Connoisseur CD, but with the titles from side 1. The picture of the Japanese cover above is from a online shop offering the album for 30 Swiss francs, actually - around $25. But don't worry, it's a scam. I tried mailing them today, but the mail bounced back. And the check-out of the web shop didn't work. Maybe they went out of business long ago. They once had some interesting stuff, anyway. Web shop link, but: Warning - it doesn't exist!!! EDIT: Clifford, I now realized you were talking about the Connoisseur LP. I believe it suffered from the same mix-up.

'Workout' is cat.no TOCJ-6484, so the conclusion so far is that the really bad ones are in the mid-64xx range. TOCJ-6412 - 'Swing, Swang, Swingin'' - OK TOCJ-6457 - 'Davis Cup' - bad TOCJ-6469 - 'J.R. Monterose' - bad TOCJ-6484 - 'Workout' - good TOCJ-6490 - 'Night Dreamer' - OK TOCJ-6502 - 'Demon's Dance' - OK TOCJ-6534 - 'Hank Mobley and His All-Stars' - (OK? - since all other issues sound bad, you couldn't really tell if the remastering is bad) TOCJ-6609 - 'One Step Beyond' - good

Thank you, Claude! If the other thread is lost (if it even exists), maybe we could continue here: -Jackie McLean 'Swing, Swang, Swingin'' (TOCJ-6412) does sound slightly compressed. Bass and treble seem boosted a bit too much, at least compared with the Connoisseur edition. -J.R. Monterose (TOCJ-6469) sounds rather compressed. Bass and espescially treble are boosted even more. I can't compare to any other issue, but I don't really like the sound of this one, it's tiring after a few minutes already. 'Demon's Dance' is TOCJ-6502, 'One Step Beyond' is TOCJ-6609 and 'Night Dreamer' is TOCJ-6490. 'Davis Cup', mentioned in the thread which I linked to in my first post, which apparently sounded bad is TOCJ-6457.