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My set was made and released in the United States by Fantasy in 1991. It has 16 CDs. I have the European ZYX (small cube) edition, and it too is 16 cds. I don't think there was ever an 18 disc edition, though I could be wrong.

Looking back through this thread, and I noticed this 8 year old comment. If you weren't already aware Bev, there is a new "Grey and Pink". 3 discs, and just came out last month. Here's the description from Amazon: "Digitally remastered and expanded deluxe three disc (two CDs + NTSC/Region 0 DVD) edition of this classic album from the British Rock/Folk outfit. Disc One contains the original album plus three brand new stereo mixes of album tracks by Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree). Disc Two contains four new stereo mixes of non-album tracks plus two previously unreleased recordings and five live tracks. Disc Three is a DVD containing a brand new 5.1 Surround Sound mix and a new stereo mix of the entire album by Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree and two videos recorded for the German pop music program, Beat Club, in June 1971." Six years later and Downes is indeed Yes' keyboardist again.

I've always liked Drama as well, Shawn! It's a shame it's taken 10 years for Yes to put this album out. Both this and Magnification are worthy additions to the Yes canon. Hopefully the next album isn't 10 more years down the line.

Yes - Fly From Here This just came out, and I know a few of us have had a chance to check it out already. I have to say I'm very pleasantly surprised by this album, as I really wasn't expecting that much. Yes has been touring without Jon Anderson for a few years now, with a singer named Benoit David, who was plucked from a Yes-tribute band in Canada. He kind of looks like a younger version of Jon, and has a similar voice. They also had been touring with Oliver Wakeman on keys, and had been preparing to record this album with him (in fact I think he's on it in a few spots, but can't tell where), but when Trevor Horn came in to produce, he recommended bringing Geoff Downes for some keyboards on the title track, which was an old Drama/Buggles era track that they expanded into a 20+ minute suite here. Downes ended up basically replacing O. Wakeman, and is now in the band and touring with them. Anyway, the album really impressed me! David doesn't sound like he's trying to mimic Anderson, but simply bringing his own style to things. Kind of like Horn did when he sang on Drama. The music sounds Yes-like, but also sounds like Yes should sound today. Squire sings on one track as well, "The Man You Always Wanted Me To Be". And Steve Howe is definitely heard on this album. Is it the new Close to the Edge? Not at all. But 42 years after releasing their first album, they still are capable of putting out music that's interesting to listen to. Check it out! Edit - Found the Buggles' version of Fly from here, from 1981. Interesting.

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Nice transition there

If you actually talk to him, try to call him Lazaro instead of Zalaro!

There's also a Best Of CD being released at the same time Best of what? Do you mean a smaller, one disc version of the 3 discs in this set? Or something else?

You know, one thing that baseball has that football & basketball don't (for the most part) is minor leagues, developmental leagues, and independent leagues. The players in A/AA/AAA and indy leagues are all competing day in and day out for that one shot at getting to the bigs. I don't think that explains why there aren't so many black MLB players, but it may be one factor. The NBA gets high school kids (or kids with one year of college under their belt) and is willing to sign them to a roster and make them an instant star (with the instant multi-million dollar contract), or spend a year or two developing them to where they can be solid contributors, while still on that roster (see DeAndre Jordan, LA Clippers). MLB doesn't really do that. Even the first round draft picks in the MLB seem to spend time in the minors before ever showing up at the show. And there were 50 rounds in this past draft. 50! There aren't "instant" stars. The allure for some urban kids from poor backgrounds may be more for the instant money (NBA) than the developmental job (MLB), that may or may not ever result in a big paycheck. Might even venture a guess that more MLB players (black, white, whatever) come from middle class backgrounds comparatively, where they were allowed to develop over time as they grew up, in Little League/Pony League, traveling teams, etc. Which all cost money. There is ALOT more competition to get onto a professional MLB baseball team, compared to an NFL or NBA team.

Interesting lineup on that freebie track, as well: SW - vocals/keyboards Theo Travis - sax/flute Steve Hackett - guitars Nick Beggs - bass Nic France - drums

No! Putting aside the implied argument that a county prosecutor's office should never be expected to be able to competently compete with "big money" lawyer "just because", it's one thing to be outplayed by a superior opponent (and enough of those should serve as learning experiences...), quite another to just be some weaselly bullshitters hiding behind the law's budget and using it as an excuse to perpetrate and perpetuate their piss-poor perceptions of the people they're supposed to be serving. The inertia of trifleness is mathematically guaranteed to succeed: the path of least resistance + the laws of gravity = s(o)(a)me typical sadass bullshit guaranteed to remain, only moreso. But that's no excuse for excusing it. No! I never made that implication. Of course the county prosecutor's job is to do the best they can, but they have a much tougher job than the defense attorney's, who only have to create reasonable doubt. They don't have to prove anything one way or the other. Big money attracts better caliber of lawyers, so I think in many cases things are skewed in the defense's favor from the git-go. Especially since their job isn't as tough, generally. I think alot of lawyers start with county/district attorney's offices, to establish their courtroom experience, then move to the other side of the fence to generate their nest egg.

Still don't agree with you. Some lawyers are simply better than others. The better ones go where there's bigger money to be had. Being a County prosecutor or something similar doesn't pay like a defense attorney does. edit - this doesn't explain Jose Baez though. IMO he was simply in above his head, and got lucky. I think the prosecution in this particular case did about 95% of the job they should have done, and arguably gave enough evidence for "beyond a reasonable doubt". The jurors didn't think so though. I'm cool with that.

The people's side gets paid a whole lot less than the defense attorneys. I think the prosecutors do about as well as they're capable of, unfortunately. No. Intentionally flaunting or otherwise disregarding the rules, be it in training or in execution, is never doing as well as anybody is capable of unless they have a fundamental learning or mental disorder. You either care enough to do your job right or you don't. If all lawyers were created equal I might agree with that.

Alot of new info, tracklists, etc, at http://www.gracefordrowning.com/ now. Also, there's a free download of "Remainder the Black Dog" if you sign up for the Kscope mailing list, here.

The people's side gets paid a whole lot less than the defense attorneys. I think the prosecutors do about as well as they're capable of, unfortunately.

All the best for the coming year, Kenny!

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"Polly? How did the turtle get in the trash can??" "I dunno!"

Looks cool - who's on the Marty Cook track? The only Scofield I have in my collection (that I know of) is as a sideman on Peter Warren (b) Solidarity on Japo, with De Johnette, Ray Anderson, and John Purcell. It's a solid session though not my go-to of Warren's dates. Marty Cook Group - Marty Cook - Trombone Jim Pepper - Tenor Sax & Vocal Ed Schuller - Bass John Betsch - Drums 1. Comin' to Git You - A Homage to Mr. D.C. (by Jim Pepper) - 10:15 2. Face the Nation (dedicated to Jim Pepper) (by Marty Cook) - 2:46 This whole disc is interesting. Even the Klatt Quartet, which was a stand-in for Tomasz Stanko, who apparently wasn't allowed to cross the border into Germany at the time for this show (1988).

If Jose Baez can win an acquittal, I wouldn't put anything past Hardin.

Listening to the new Sco album, "A Moment's Peace". I wasn't even aware of this one until I read the thread about Russell Malone's recent Blindfold Test. Already out in Europe & Japan, U.S. release in September. This is a set of ballads, with Sco in a quartet setting with Larry Goldings, Scott Colley, and Brian Blade. I think this is the first time Blade and Sco have recorded together. And Goldings and Sco are a good combo, as evidenced on their Trio Beyond recording from about 5 years ago, with Jack DeJohnette (and previous Sco dates obviously). 1. Simply Put 2. I Will 3. Lawns 4. Throw It Away 5. I Want To Talk About You 6. Gee Baby Ain't I Good To You 7. Johan 8. Mood Returns 9. Already September 10. You Don't Know What Love Is 11. Plain Song 12. I Loves You Porgy

Staring contest - Samuel wins, you lose.

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Just saw this info on the SH board, I guess from some early "listening party" or something: ***** Some info about Opeth's new album: -It was played in 5.1 surround system and according to the writer the mix was good although he's usually not a fan of playing rock in other than stereo format. Åkerfeldt himself said "I first heard the record today and I didn't know they were going to play it to the media in surround. I had my doubts, but the end-result made me have goose bumps" -It's about 56 minutes long. -Draws to mind Sabbath, Beatles, jazz, King Crimson, Cream, Rainbow, Floyd, funk, Purple, Piirpauke, classical, My Dying Bride, folk, Love, Jethro Tull, Maiden… -No death metal parts or growling -No modern style of "wall of guitar tracks". -Lots of keys, piano and mellotron are featured. Some intros include clarinet and contrabass. - "We aren't concerned about other people's opinions", Åkerfeldt stated. "If fans of death metal can't enjoy this, that's their problem" The band leader also said that he had grown tired of extreme metal already in the 90s, but couldn't explain why the previous record still included death growls. "I have wanted to make a record like this since I was 20", Åkerfeldt said and added that making it would not have been possible without the metal roots that brought them success. The journalist also says: "In any case, some metal fans will have troule with Heritage, but if your hopes are more in the 70s, this album can only work. This is probably safe to assume after a single listen. The first 7 songs are insanely good, the other 3 a bit less so."