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that glenn jones email has almost no relevant information. looking at a couple of posts above that one: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1087-revenant-is-planning-big-albert-ayler-box/&do=findComment&comment=1001469 The Ayler 'Copenhagen Tapes' release has a note indicating: 'Licensed from the Ayler Estate, p and copyright 2002' Had an email exchange with Jan Ström after he was ordered in 2008 to stop the publication of the CD. Jan mentioned it had been impossible to reach an agreement with the Ayler family for a renewal of the licence and added that the family was simply asking for too much money! >>>>>>>>>>> this is around the time that stollman was working with, and, i believe, representing the ayler estate. it would appear to me that the ayler family could be better off, now that he's not whispering in their ear. strom should try them again. they're probably throwing out less rejections these days.
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from my understanding, it seems to have been all esp/stollman. the Ayler estate had very little, or nothing to do with it. i was told that what got revenant into trouble is that they included this on the holy ghost box (this is the second half of the June 14, 1964 live session, previously released by sunny murray on ALBERT SMILES WITH SUNNY). Evidently the entire session is owned by esp. The Cellar Cafe, New York June 14, 1964 1. Spirits [incomplete] (6:38) 2. Saints (10:32) 3. Ghosts [incomplete] (10:56) 4. The Wizard (6:51) 5. Children (9:05) 6. Spirits [theme] (0:28)
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Scatting to Hank Mobley's solo on If I Should Lose you.
l p replied to Hardbopjazz's topic in Miscellaneous Music
when scatting is done on fast songs (ella), i just want to break my stereo in half. i recently heard a joke about scatting "wouldn't it be easier to just learn the words?" -
so if a musician is exclusively signed to a label, then that musician's family can't release any tapes from the time frame that he was signed to that label. it's kind of a fucked up deal now for collectors and for the families of the musicians. there would be a lot more music out there for us to hear if the families could release anything that they wanted.
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yes, that info sounds like it would be from an old broadcast. from the linked article- >>> But Thelonious didn’t have that kind of commitment behind him, so he started recording himself, and a lot of other people started recording him too, because they couldn’t get live recordings of him. >>> this isn't really true. 95% of the unissued material is from european radio/tv broadcasts. there are very few audience recordings of monk. but they (the family) do seem to have family tapes and nica's tapes. although there may be very little of this material, and it may all be released and in circulation now. i've wondered why that family site stopped selling cd's shortly after starting. probably got sued by columbia or families of the sidemen. it was a very brief endeavor.
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there was an interesting post on the saturn list a few months ago about this album Sun Ra and his Arkestra Song of the Stargazers Saturn 6161 (NMY), LP 487 Side A: The Others in their World (Ra, not the 1960 piece) Somewhere Out (Ra) Distant Stars (Ra, not the 1960 piece either) Duo Side B: Seven Points (Ra) Cosmo Dance (Ra) Galactic Synthesis (Ra) (all above info from moudry's site) >>>>>> saturn post: So I was listening to a dub of the rare Saturn LP, Song of the Stargazers yesterday, first listen in about a decade, and it hit me. This is not a record by Sun Ra or the Arkestra. The more I listen to it, the more I think this is the case. The first thing that clued me in was track 6, Cosmo Dance. Campbell in the 2nd ed. puts this track in the late 60s. But I would bet money that Sun Ra never touched it in any way. Nothing about it sounds like his work, not the composition, not the arrangement, not the flautist, nothing. I thought maybe it was Salah Ragab's Cairo Jazz Band, but the dates don't work. Next was the piano solo at the end of Galactic Synthesis. I just don't think that's Sun Ra. It's not his touch or phrasing. I don't think it's Cecil Taylor either, but it sounds more like him than Sunny. Same with the piano solo on Somewhere Out. Same with the organ playing on the first track The Others in Their World. It's closer to Sun Ra than the piano, but it still isn't him. Even the improvised ensembles don't sound like the ones he directed in the 70s either. Michael Ray is definitely not on this record. Him I'd recognize in three notes. Neither is Marshall Allen or John Gilmore. Furthermore I can't say with any certainty that I recognize any musician on this record. In entries 289-292 of the 2nd ed., Campbell keeps pointing out how unusual the performances are. The last time I remember having a discussion about this on the list, we were all stumped where and when it came from. At the time I fooled myself in to thinking that most of the material was from the late 60s. But apply Occam's Razor, and it all becomes clear. It's not a Sun Ra record. So what is this record? It was the last LP that Alton Abraham put out of Chicago. How many years since he had gotten any new material from Sun Ra? Maybe he got an emergency request for an LP to sell, scraped together a tape some other Chicago band he knew, forgot to master both sides of the tape, tacked on some old Sun Ra song titles and shipped it to Europe. Who knows? Alton Abraham was known for very...unusual...business practices. I don't think throwing together a pseudo-Sun Ra LP would have been entirely outside the pale for him.
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on this track, she sounds like someone we know.
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The 1978-1982 dejohnette as-leader shows are quite excellent. He seems to have been a good/strong leader. Usually with cello/bass (peter warren), alto sax (blythe or purcell), tenor sax/bass clarinet (chico freeman or david murray), sometimes guitar (abercrombie), and jack on drums and piano. public theatre, nyc 3-18-78 cambridge, ma 4-10-79 chicago 4-6-80 baltimore 5-4-80 willisau, switz. 8-29-80 edmonton, alberta, can. 1980 santa monica 10-31-81 moers, ger. 5-30-82 hamburg 6-4-82 ljubljana, yugoslavia 6-18-82 nurnberg, ger. 1982 Tunes usually played: One for Eric Zoot Suite Central Park West India (Coltrane) Tin Can Alley Pastel Rhapsody Riff Raff
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they'd look 10 times better if they were black.
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What's with the French sense of humor?
l p replied to Dmitry's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
check out the films of Quentin Dupieux. the funniest french writer/director in recent years. i'd say that his movies are in the comedy / absurdist category. Nonfilm (2001) on Uploaded by the director. with english subtitles. Steak (2007) Rubber (2010) Wrong (2012) * Wrong Cops (2013) * Realite (2014) ** * english language ** mostly english language -
Slam Stewart & Major Holley recorded a couple of co-leader albums together Two Big Mice http://www.discogs.com/Slam-Stewart-Major-Holley-Two-Big-Mice/release/2405206 Shut Yo' Mouth http://www.discogs.com/Slam-Stewart-Major-Holley-Shut-Yo-Mouth/master/572581
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Major Holley it's not the same thing. Major Holley made it part of his routine. i think slam stewart did it too? one of these 2 seemed to do it on every solo that he took, which gets old very fast.
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all the " / " tunes are different from each other on the 2 cd's Coleman Hawkins Alive! At The Village Gate 1 All The Things You Are 2 Joshua Fit The Battle Of Jericho /3 Mack The Knife /4 (It's the) Talk Of The Town /5 Bean And The Boys 6 If I Had You Hawkins! Eldridge! Hodges! Alive! At The Village Gate 1. Satin Doll 2. Perdido 3. The Rabbit in Jazz /4. Mack the Knife /5. It's the Talk of the Town /6. Bean and the Boys 7. Caravan
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this is actually kind of funny, and doesn't seem to be coming from a hateful place (as evidenced when he mentions country music at the end).
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https://slought.org/resources/interview_john_coltrane this is the cleanest copy that i've heard.
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shepp's playing is fine here, but the sound of his sax is extremely harsh to me. i didn't notice it in the past on the 2 takes that we've had before, but it really struck me when listening to this longer version of the session. i'm not very used to hearing his mid-60's playing. with him out of the way, instead of a jam-like atmosphere, all you hear is jc doing clean takes of acknowledgement.
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shepp is completely out of the mix when listening only to the left channel on the 12.10.64 session. it seems better. i don't like shepp's 1960's hoarse tone. for me, it clashes with coltrane's sound.
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i've often wondered if belden mistakenly put the wrong take on the box set. this doesn't have trumpet.
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WBAI FM----Moribund and unwell in NYC
l p replied to fasstrack's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
i wonder what this m.f. is so bitter about. a walking cautionary tale. -
Jazz documentaries on YouTube - recommendations?
l p replied to BillF's topic in Miscellaneous Music
i think that this is the only documentary that includes the complete tv clip with the interview before hot house. most docs omit the interview. if it's not this one, then it's 'bird lives'. but i think that it's this one. -
i think they may have purposely changed the year to suit their timeline needs, whatever those may be. it's just common knowledge that the instructional video is from 1985. i kept hoping for some footage from 1987... i don't usually look at these, but i kept wondering why my dvd wasn't shipped yet- blu ray Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #10 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Documentary dvd Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #6 in Movies & TV > DVD > Documentary
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yes, i saw that too. he was actually just listening to jemmott talk, but they took out the sound and made it look like he was contemplating jemmott's 'deep' question. the very first scene of the documentary, which is also from the above video, gives the year as '1983 or 1984', when they know full well that it's 1985 (summer). i wrote to info@stephenkijak.com (the director) about this, and got this reply from kijak's assistant: >>>Kijak stepped off of JACO over a year and a half ago - Mr Paul Marchand was responsible for finishing the film so blame him for the fuck up. >>> after a short while i just fast forwarded whenever an interviewee was on screen. peter erskine had some insightful things to say, and bobby thomas was ok too. but having 20 rock people talking in a documentary about a jazz musician is in poor taste.
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it's interesting that the 2cd version is hidden on amazon, and can't be found just by doing a regular search. by verve's request, i would think. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=coltrane+A+Love+Supreme+The+Complete+Masters&rh=n%3A5174%2Ck%3Acoltrane+A+Love+Supreme+The+Complete+Masters
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amazon and cduniverse keep running out of this release, which i guess is a good thing in terms of popularity. the documentary itself is the usual talking heads crap. but there's so much home footage included throughout, that you can turn the sound off and be satisfied with just the visuals. the criteria sessions cd was supposedly the best selling record store day item when it was released in april 2014.
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http://www.montreuxjazzlive.com/concerts-database?title=eddie+harris&field_concert_date_value%5Bvalue%5D%5Byear%5D=1969 EDDIE HARRIS QUARTET, June 20, 1969, Montreux Casino Eddie Harris (s) Jodie Christian (p) Melvin Jackson (b) Billy Hart (dr) 1. Listen Here (8:00) only track available on video
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