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a session of shepp doing ellington tunes. that's some radical jazz listening. at least you have the right shepp decade. but i'm sure that's just a coincidence.

what sucks about the wes verve/a&m years is that he recorded in the same studio, at the same time with the orchestras. if he'd recorded with his rhythm section, and then the orchestra was overdubbed afterwards, then we would probably have a box set by now of wes' verve/a&m recordings without the orchestra. it's a catastrophy. those orchestra arrangements are rarely anything less than obnoxious. have to fastforward to wes' solos on practically every track.

http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=560218 there is a new entry on losin's site. 35min. someone said that it's on easytree, but i couldn't find it.

a good guess would be that it's the peacock alley, st. louis material. that stuff never was officially released.

but just in case, you should consider releasing more of chet "i have no talent, but the white boys like me cause i look good on the album covers" baker.

hey chuck, it looks like the philology guy's already releasing parts of the 45 town hall concert that you've been teasing people with. by the time you get it out, it could already be on philology. Bird's Eyes, Volume 67 (Philology W 898 (CD-R)) Title: Bird's Eyes, Volume 67 June 22, 1945 (2 items; TT = 6:31) Town Hall, New York NY Private recording (acetate) Dizzy Gillespie All-Stars Dizzy Gillespie (tpt); Charlie Parker (as); Al Haig (p); Dillon "Curly" Russell (b); Max Roach (d) Groovin' High (D. Gillespie-F. Paparelli) (incomplete) 4:28 Cut off during piano solo. Hot House (T. Dameron) (incomplete) 2:03 Cut off during piano solo. Groovin' High (incomplete) CD: Philology Volume 67 (W 898) Hot House (incomplete) CD: Philology Volume 67 (W 898) --- i'm sure that you have a great lawyer, who won't be able to do shit about this. btw, are you making a cross country tour with that tape? stopping by different towns in the country. like a politician.

after hearing the long ayler interviews on the revenant box, a lot of stuff in this online book (which was compiled from various sources) is now shown to be incorrect. i.e. don ayler leaving the band. he had to stay home, and that's why he wasn't at the fondation maeght concerts.

i don't think tape collectors have these. the title does not sound familiar.

he played with lateef in 1978, and pharoah in 1979, 1993-96. and yes, he is good. as far as getting in touch with him, you'd have to post a query to bass forums (on google groups alt.guitar.bass; and alt.bass), or he may have his own website.

is the remastered cd exactly the same mix as the lp. larry young's organ is way in the back of the mix on the lp. thanks Devotion [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] John McLaughlin http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=music review from amazon: This CD was "remastered" from a vinyl copy & for that reason alone, I would say avoid it if you can. >>>>

this release was distributed on the ayler-tree a year or so ago. esp could have released previously unheard music. but he (stollman) chose not to do so.

wan't that said about stitt, mclean, etc? people say a lot of things that they don't mean.

allen, buddy, i thought we were pals?

Allen, don't worry, l p will have a comeback for that. Dizzy must have made those comments to make the whites happy, get a new gig, or make a little extra cash. Or, he may have just been delirious. If I remeber correctly, Jaco Pastorius was the only white dude in jazz that ever made the cut in l p's ears. He likey Jaco. casesta is a repeater pencil, but he's got it right. and he got it right when he said the same thing about 2 weeks ago. all the stuff that i'm saying has been said by others before. in books and in interviews. and as an aside, i'd love to take credit for this quote, but i can't: >It's always fascinating to see how JSngry can >post hundreds of words that contain absolutely no information.

in that thread, "these people" meant record companies, night club owners, etc. you no make sense. grasping at straws. Also if Feather is "just a piece of shit who HAPPENED to be Jewish [my emphasis]," how, again, was he "a huge ugly blotch on the jewish race in the jazz world"? Go ahead, lp, take your dog out for a walk but don't then insist that it's a pussy cat. <<< because he did a lot of nasty things to people (read: musicians). and he's still considered a decent guy by most. those who don't know any better.

i'll quote chuck nessa, and ask you to read the whole thread. otherwise you're assuming.

lp -- Enlighten me on how Leonard Feather was " a huge ugly blotch on the jewish race in the jazz world." Yes, Leonard was a self-promoting jerk in many respects, but how does one's feelings about that behavior transfer to the "race"? Are you saying that Feather's behavior springs from and relates specifically to his Jewishness? >>> no. he was just a piece of shit who happened to be jewish. but he's a great example of a person who went through a lot of trouble to take advantage of people whenever possible. there is an old related thread on bluenote in google groups. Sticking with promoter/record biz types, Alfred Lion is generally regraded as a man of sterling reputation and high achievement. If you agree (perhaps you don't), does Lion being the man he was amount to a huge lovely bouquet to "the Jewish race"? >>>> i don't know anything about alfred lion's business tactics/reputation among musicians. If you agree, staying in this realm, that John Hammond was somewhat equivocal figure in many respects, is Hammond then "a huge ugly blotch" on White Anglo-Saxon Protestants? >>> hammond was a piece of shit too. this is a man who got billie holiday fired from the basie band because she refused to sing all blues songs. a lot of people have a lot of bad things to say about john hammond. you need to read more books. or ask chris albertson. he'll bitch about anybody you name. even if he has to make shit up.

that's because kofsky is one of the few whites who tells it like it is, no matter the consequences. and probably has more taste in music than the average joe (or chris for that matter).

you better look in the mirror. every other post from you is bitching about writers. is it because they are better/more successful than you are. you wrote one book? not a bad one, but i've read many better biographies.

you may be forgetting to take tape speed into consideration. we're basically talking about a 5min difference at most, which could easily be caused by tape speed. i can almost guarantee that my copy came from the same person who gave it to nessa. (and then sold it to philology). again, there isn't any more material from the ranch. that's according to the source mentioned above. and it's a rather big source. or maybe chuck could check his tape, and tell us what are the extra tunes on his copy.

i didn't say 'great with money'. i would say better with money. anyway, history shows that jews, on the average, are more succesful in business than gentiles. i doubt that i'm the first to ever say this. a large amount of record company owners, managers, club owners, etc. are/were jewish. and let's not forget leonard feather, what a huge ugly blotch on the jewish race in the jazz world. but there are probably even better examples. benny goodman didn't want charlie christian to play with lester, etal at the spirituals to swing concert. wanted to keep charlie all to himself. many other examples. check out frank kofsky's books (and he's jewish). you can skip the communist stuff.

congradulations, but that's the amount that everybody has. Not according to the track times in the discography that Medjuck posted above. Those tracks total 75 minutes, give or take, which makes sense considering that it was a single CD of music that Pete B. put together from his friend's gift. i have it on a tape, and it's like 80m. so when nessa says 80-90min, and hasn't listened to the tape in years, that could mean 70-90min. could go to losin's site and add up http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/BirdSessions.aspx Jirayr Zorthian's ranch, Altadena CA July 8, 1952 (3 items; TT = 19:19) July 14, 1952 (5 items; TT = 25:49) July 28, 1952 (5 items; TT = 30:53) = 76min anyway, there is only 76min of music available from Jirayr Zorthian's ranch, Altadena CA 1952. end of story.

congradulations, but that's the amount that everybody has.

Hmmmmmmmm... if you can't think of any, well there are many "good" Jewish jazz musicians listed in this thread .... there aren't any good (let alone great) jewish jazz musicians. they (we) are better at the business, and collecting end of the music business. unfortunately, a lot of the white men who financially ripped off black jazz musicians were jewish. keep the rolling eyes thing going. you'll look swell. benny goodman? stan getz? f.t.s.

can't think of any good jewish jazz musicians. there is one jewish rock musician that i like - lou reed. his 1978 shows ('take no prisoners' cd) are great.