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Didn't Philip Larkin already explain that jazz died in the early 60's when John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Eric Dolphy, Ornette Coleman and those other scalawag ruffians killed it? Or was it already pronounced dead Chuck Berry in the late 50's? I've got no kick against modern jazz, Unless they try to play it too darn fast; And change the beauty of the melody, Until they sounded like a symphony,

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What's a good source for ordering these in the USA? I'm not finding them on Amazon.

Also, some of those CD titles had bonus tracks. Will the bonus material make it into the box set?

The Louis Hayes/Woody Shaw Swiss Radio Days set is spectacular, probably up there next to the incredible 'Live at the Berliner Jazztage' as my two favorite Shaw recordings (and I basically have all of his leader/co-leader releases).

Depends on configuration and final price point for me. If they happen to be individually packaged CD's that I can pass along what I don't want or already have, that may work. If it gets really cheap, that may work so that I can get specific titles I'd really like to have (Sam Rivers Streams, etc. - sold mine many years ago). But if it's 50 CD's in one package at $212.50,not even close for me.

BTW, one sleeper CD that does invoke a little something of the feeling of early Santana in some places is "Abraxas Pool". 1997 Miramar release, the personnel is Gregg Rolie, Michael Shrieve, Neal Schon, Michael Carabello, Jose Chepito Areas, and Alphonso Johnson. I.E. Santana III without Santana himself (Schon was already in Santana at that point) and with Johnson on bass. I wouldn't pay the $20+ it's going for on Amazon, and it isn't gonna replace your early Santana albums, but if you come across it cheap, it's the best thing in a whole lot of years from the early-Santana/Journey pool of musicians. The other albums that are pretty underrated are the early 90's Santana albums on Polydor ("Milagro" and "Sacred Fire"), which don't have the compromises of his 80's Columbia albums (let alone the horrors of his Arista go-rillas) and which have some dignity to them.

Swing of Delight always seemed like much much less than the sum of its parts to me, played safe maybe because of the direct to disc technology. Was hoping for more of a pre-Amigos "classic" from the description in Randy's post. Nonetheless, look forward to hearing this, and it's by default got to be the best thing he's done in about 20 years anyways. Just going to be a matter of how good is the good.

x 1,000,000 = the Tolliver

I like Scott's 'Anthem' and 'Live at Newport' sets a lot, and that was having been predisposed to expect to not like them. Found his debut got bogged down after a couple of strong tracks at the beginning - the writing wasn't there yet, but is on those other two sets. Look forward to hearing more by him, and there are few in his generation I say that about.

I'll second that. Love Mingus, and think this album's about as gorgeous as any music ever created by anyone.

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I bought CD's, which made me have to get a CD player. I was holding out as long as I could (but knew it was inevitable), but then was in Tower Records on South Street in Philly, early 1988, and saw a bunch of classic Blue Note titles on sale as cutouts. I thought "oh no, I'm going to have missed my opportunity on all the Blue Note reissues!" and scooped up a bunch of them at the then-bargain price of $7.99. A few days later bought a CD player to play them on. Turns out they were only cut out for Blue Note to redo the catalog number system or something, all have been reissued various times, and I don't believe I still own any of those original CD's today. But they have 5,000-10,000 brothers and sisters to take their place. It was somewhat under control until the internet and Ebay bulk lots come along (for me - held out there also) 10 years later.

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This thread led me to finding this, a 10-CD set that came out this past spring: http://www.amazon.com/Philadelphia-International-40th-Anniversary/dp/B006ZGDC26/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Yes it does. I also passed along the big box when I got the Master Takes box.

And BGO does a great job on their mastering, and licensing is legit.

Definitely the something. I have not ever kept a Mizell anything in my collection. Had mercifully forgotten about the whole "A New Note on Blue Note" marketing schtick. I did like the bold blue record label from that era.

He and Richard Evans are both given production credits on the 'Mixed Bag' album, so you're probably right regardless of the labeling on the single. I also agree with you about the original being strong. Two different musical experiences, both of value. She's interesting - another one of those singers who didn't fit categorization well and likely suffered commercially for it (primo examples are the great Terry Callier, Gil Scott-Heron, but there were others).

The live one's pretty good (though very short), just a trio behind her. And "Woman of the Ghetto" from it was famously sampled for that acid jazz hit by St. Germain. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IDMgBxHcM5M Was it the BN version that was sampled or the one on Chess (produced by Charles Stepney & containing some pre-EWF use of the kalimba by him)? I honestly don't know. Marlena Shaw Live at Montreux From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Marlena Shaw Live at Montreux (also released as Marlena Shaw Live: Cookin' with Blue Note at Montreux) is a live album by American vocalist Marlena Shaw recorded at the Montreux Jazz Festival in 1973 and released on the Blue Note label.[1] Shaw's introduction to the track "Woman of the Ghetto" was sampled for St. Germain's album Tourist (2000).

They were recorded earlier than this series, they're from the Liberty Era, not the UA era.

The live one's pretty good (though very short), just a trio behind her. And "Woman of the Ghetto" from it was famously sampled for that acid jazz hit by St. Germain.

Yes, I believe all of the Silver 'N titles are. That being said, they are a long way from "Song For My Father", with much dreadful gobbledygook added into the production (as was common for most of the titles recorded in the later UA era).

I like the early Wynton's, especially the Live at Jazz Alley date. That was before he was trying to educate us, just playing trumpet instead. Love love love his work with Blakey/Watson.

Well, this is almost correct in the sense that a sibling is not really the parent, but, in the end, there were not as many children created as they were once meant to be. Right, I believe Strata-East was developed based on the original concept of Strata, if I remember correctly across the decades.