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PM sent on the Bobby Battle.

Well, we all have snotty things we said about people 30 years ago that we wish we could take back (I know I do, and have specifics that still haunt me), but thankfully for most of us, no one remembers or is paying any attention to those things 30 years later. The curse of credibility. Adams actually is my all-time favorite on baritone. Thank you, Larry, for being willing to share that with us.

"Mystery of Love" from that one was the piece that first got me into Weston. I was already a Harper fan from his work on the 'Lee Morgan' album, especially "Capra Black", and from his Strata-East 'Capra Black' album. I like the early Weston stuff, but have always been more drawn to Weston's material from the mid-60's on, which was much more Afro-centric. I think the story is that he took a trip to Africa, which changed his conception, if I remember correctly.

Do you know offhand the ratio of instrumental grooviness to vocal beat group stuff on this collection? 80% vocal, but great period stuff. The Chapter 3 stuff has been on CD, I have it.

Looking forward to your opinion. The band seems to be the same one which was recorded on the four Woody Shaw Live cds, sans Hutcherson that were put out by High Note. Similar material, I suppose? There was discussion about this in another thread recently. Really good sets.

The Freddie Roach is great, and also very hard to come by.

Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere on the site. Received notification that BMG Music Service is going out of business on May 31. They will continue to run Yourmusic, but not the parent club. Too bad, because you could do a lot better through the club on multiple CD sets than through Yourmusic. I've belonged to them for about 20 years, and had belonged to Columbia Record/CD club for over 30 years, so it's going to feel strange to have neither around any more. Built a lot of my collection through those two clubs, especially Columbia, where you you could average under $5 per CD, tax and shipping included.

Women from the City of Brotherly Love division: Trudy Pitts Shirley Scott British Prog/Jazz/Rock division: Brian Auger (Trinity, Oblivion Express) Mike Ratledge (Soft Machine) David Sinclair (Caravan) Pete Bardens (Camel) Rod Argent (Zombies, Argent)

PM sent on the D'Silva.

Thought I would bump this up for renewed discussion since some people may have now heard this material for the first time through the John Handy Mosaic Select release. I was surprised the first time through how few people were familiar with this material. I assume Chuck still doesn't care for it , but would be interested in any new thoughts.

I know that for the '67 Monterey Pop Festival, only the first song or two was filmed for most of the acts, which is a tragic loss. (At least that's what the documentary says). Suspect Woodstock was the same. Seems like more would have come out on DVD for those if there was more, though maybe I'm just showing my age/era here....

5-4-3-2-1 was the theme song of Britain's Shindig-type TV show called Ready, Steady, Go. I believe that it was a minor hit there, released before Do Wah Diddy. And felser, you mean Come Tomorrow, right? Yes I do - I'll correct my post. That one wasn't a hit here, so isn't plastered in my subconscious active file like "Doo Wah Diddy Diddy" is.

And I certainly understand why it wasn't a hit. Pretty dumb record. Not a "Doo Wah Diddy Diddy" or "Pretty Flamingo" or "Come Tomorrow" by any stretch of the imagination. Closer to Freddie and the Dreamers type inanities. Manfred Mann, in addition to those great singles, had some killer album tracks like "Smokestack Lightning". But like any early British Invasion groups (except for THAT ONE early British Invasion Group), also had some real dogs. Andy 5-4-3-2-1 is of the canine variety. Question for Chuck. If 5-4-3-2-1 had somehow become a million seller, would Prestige have had the manufacturing and distribution bandwidth to handle it? Seems like a whold different world than jazz LP's which would have been selling, what, 5,000 copies each? What was normal sales in that era for jazz LP's by second tier names (IE not the big sellers like Miles, Brubeck, etc.)? edited to correct song title per GA Russell.

Gotcha. Makes sense. Were there college radio stations playing it in those towns, or was it word of mouth and the fledgling rock press? I shudder to think what someone like Jon Landau would have done in a review of that one.

As a record retailer at the time, I shoved hundreds of 'em into bags. It was huge in any store I was working. Probably did well in the large urban markets that would have had "underground" radio stations like Chicago, where I believe you were. Probably never got heard in the hinterlands which were still exclusively AM Top 40 stations. I was even in a city that had a good underground station (Cincinnati, WEBN), and I don't remember hearing it, though I was 13 years old and would not have liked or understood it if I had heard it. Not sure how much I actually like or understand it even now, but I do admire it.

This is wide-ranging forum for jazz fans, many of whom have wide-ranging tastes. Grateful Dead, prog rock, Van Morrison, Heart Attack, Flipper, Black Flag, Sonic Youth - and a whole load more. Doesn't mean you have to express your distaste every time someone you don't dig gets some O cyber time. But the beauty of an open forum is that you have the freedom to express your distastes! I admire Costello for turning five good years of music ('77-'82) into a 30+ year career and a marriage to the lovely and talented Diana Krall.

Correct, it did not make the Billboard Top 200 album charts at all. 'Moondance' went to #22. Morrison has only ever had one top 20 album, "St. Dominic's Preview", which made #15.

Greil Marcus ROCKS. I love the 'Mystery Train' book.

Agreed on the sound quality. Also, Mal Waldron was stuck playing the most out of tune piano in the history of recorded music. The Dolphy Prestige CD box is the way to go on all of this stuff if you like Dolphy, far more economical than any other configuration and nice packaging. And if you're not sold on Dolphy, the Five Spot stuff isn't anywhere near the place to start (I'd start with his recordings with Mingus and with 'Last Date').

Not 'to your taste?' PM sent on the Handy

Not stupid at all, thank you for asking. 20-bit K2 remastering was used by Fantasy on a select set of their OJC titles and these editions were released in the early 2000's before Fantasy sold their operations lock, stalk, and barrell to the Evil Concord Empire, who are much more concerned about hawking the latest lame James Taylor and Paul McCartney titles than about the availability and well-being of some classic, beautiful 45-50 year old Walt Dickerson titles. Anyways these remasters, the K2's, are widely renowned for their sound quaility, and most of the board members who have much better stereo systems than I do seem to find them far superior to the latter RVG and Keepnews editions, and even I on my little portable disk player at work and my low end Sennheiser headphones find them to sound fantastic. They are all out of print at this point.

Amazon Marketplace, where one of their big guys (Caiman or ImportCD's) will generally have a good price.

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Up with edits, almost 100 gone since posted 2/15! Thanks to all!

I don't know this recording, but it looks like the same band as on the Pablo, Live at the Northsea Jazz Festival, which is quite good. It's a good, not great, set. Worth having.