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Thanks again, brownie! Did you see my (above) posts re "Temas brasileños" & "Ten to two blues"?

April 1, 1977 Tete Montoliu (with Sam Jones & Billy Higgins) records part of "Secret love" for Timeless.

Been looking for that one for years! Will accept a CDR. Me too!!!!

Young enough to avoid memories of those hard times, I hope!

Here´s what we´re currently listing on this date: If you could also bring track timing, that would be simply GREEEEEEEEAT!

So, discs released by the French Telefunken are issued as "Ducretet-Thompson" ? I think the one you mentioned is a new addition to the releases list. It´s strange that the Spanish Telefunken EP (RCA/Telefunken TFK 13.007) with "Avertissez moi", "Am I blue?" & "That Old Devil Love", extracted from the original German LP, was issued under name of Teté [sic] Montoliu although he is not the pianist on these tracks. While checking our Tete Montoliu discography with the one on Miquel Jurado´s book, I see there´s some confussion in tracks/issues. To add some light to this, could you list the tracks included in that French LP, and mark on which tracks Tete plays? Thanks for your patience!

So, discs released by the French Telefunken are issued as "Ducretet-Thompson" ? I think the one you mentioned is a new addition to the releases list. It´s strange that the Spanish Telefunken EP (RCA/Telefunken TFK 13.007) with "Avertissez moi", "Am I blue?" & "That Old Devil Love", extracted from the original German LP, was issued under name of Teté [sic] Montoliu although he is not the pianist on these tracks.

Same as above: Are you sure your copy is the one I was asking for (Ensayo CD: ENY-CD 3472) and not Ensayo CD: ENY-CD 9773 ? I had ENY-CD 9773 and copyright date is 1999. And I had supposed the ENY-CD 3472 was the first CD incarnation (or at least a previous one), and thus earlier in time. But I may be wrong. Sorry for being such a pain in the ass!!! :rsmile:

Thanks for your interest, Claude! (those Japanese editions are driving me crazy)

Are you sure your copy is the one I was asking for (Ensayo CD: ENY-CD 3473 - Boleros) and not Ensayo CD: ENY-CD 9770 - Boleros ? I had ENY-CD 9770 and copyright date is 1999. And I had supposed the ENY-CD 3473 was the first CD incarnation (or at least a previous one), and logically earlier in time.

Are you sure it´s the Ensayo LP 12": ENY-303 - Temas Brasileños and not a different LP issue? I can´t recall which was my source at this moment, but I had 1974 as release date for this one.

Tete only plays on the quintet tracks: "Spain", "Tenderly" (his warhorse by that time) and "Toledo Blade". The rest of the disc is by the Orchestra, with Oscar Dennard on piano. There´s also an unissued track from that session, "Embraceable you" where there´s reasonable doubt if Tete plays. In the LP incarnations there were no mention of Tete in the credits. It was in the first CD issue when he appeared. Miquel Jurado, a very close friend of Tete and author of "Tete. Quasi autobiografía" told me Tete had assured him he played in those three above mentioned tracks. And then there´s the aural evidence, slightly more tangible (at least for my "closed" and non-trained-at-all ears) on "Tenderly", though obviously his style was merely being developed by those early years.

Thanks for your contribution! I´ll ask a few questions and, though I don´t have all the information here, I´ll try to clarify a few points.

I´ve already posted this in the Storyville thread, but here´s a very nice 1970 date with Japanese clarinetist Eiji Kitamura: (this is not the cover in the CD release that I have, but couldn´t find mine)

Anyone?

Up for some spring air. In the first post: Updated list of the Steeplechase LPs & CDs for which we still don´t have release date. I´ll start another thread to list LPs & CDs in labels other than Steeplechase. Thanks, Agustín

A few "jungle music" suggestions for non-completists (those who don´t want to take the Classics+Neatwork or the Masters of Jazz path): -For Brunswick and Vocalion recordings, the three-disc set, "Early Ellington" (Decca Jazz GRD-3-640). -For those made for Columbia, Okeh and others: the 2CD "The Okeh Ellington" (Columbia C2K 46177) -Recordings made for RCA-Victor: "Early Ellington, 1927-1934" (Bluebird 6852-2-RB); "Jungle Nights in Harlem, 1927-1932" (Bluebird 2499-2-RB); and "Jubilee Stomp" (Bluebird 66038-2), which covers 1928-34.

This upcoming release is probably one to get:

brownie, are any of these Hawk discographies online? Last year I spent hours searching and found nothing. Same here! I´ve asked in various BB and searched a lot through the internet: nothing came out. In fact I was thinking about starting research on a Coleman Hawkins discography... Mike? Only joking: I´m afraid it would take many years of hard research.

Yeah!!!! One of the most amazing concerts by the orchestra. On the Treasury Shows: so far I only have four or five volumes (out of 11 released), but the musical level of what I´ve heard is very high as well. I´d suggest a few more live dates: -At the Hurricane (1943) on Storyville -The Carnegie Hall concerts (specially 1943 and 1944) -At the Zanzibar (1945) on Collectors -At the Hollywood Empire (1949) on Storyville And also add: -The complete Standard Transcriptions (2CD) (1941) on Soundies -The World Broadcasting Series (5 volumes) (1943-45) on Circle Records

As a complement to the Steeplechase thread, I´m listing all the releases (78, EP, LP & CD) for which we still don´t have release date in our discography. http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Artists/Montoliu/ I know it´s a pretty exhaustive list, but I´d be very grateful if you could take a look at it and, if you own any of these discs, help us !!! (on this thread or via email to ekebbbapg@yahoo.es ) Tete Montoliu is the leader, unless otherwise indicated. -RCA Victor LP 12": LPM 10317 - More Jazz At Comblain La Tour! -Adlon EP 7": - Van Prince And Orchestra Featuring Sahib Shihab (Van Prince, ldr) -Edigsa CD: 80.2989 - Jazz A Catalunya -Ensayo CD: ENY-CD 3464 - Temas Latinoamericanos -DiscMedi CD: DM BOX 18 - Tete Montoliu Please, confirm that the date is RELEASE date (pressing/copyright date) and not recording date. Millions of thanks in advance! Agustín

Hey, welcome back, brownie!!! Here´s what we know as bird call

I don't think I have the Howard Theater recording. Who put that one out? According to Miles Ahead discography of Bird, there are two recorded performances at the Howard Theater: ________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________ October 18, 1952 (5 items; TT = 21:41) Howard Theater, Washington DC Private recording (Tape) Jam session Charlie Parker (as); Charlie Walp (tpt); Kai Winding (tb); Earl Swope (tb); Zoot Sims [John Haley] (ts); Bill Shanahan (p); Charlie Byrd (g); Merton Oliver (b); Don Lamond (d); Unknown (bgo) -Scrapple from the Apple (C. Parker) 5:22 Parker calls for "Out of Nowhere" during the applause. -Out of Nowhere (E. Heyman-J.W. Green) 4:02 -Now's the Time (C. Parker) 8:00 Add Walp (tpt), Swope and Winding (tb), and Sims (ts). -52nd Street Theme (T. Monk) 0:03 -Cool Blues (C. Parker) (incomplete) 4:14 Add Walp (tpt), Swope (tb). Begins mid-Parker solo, then Swope solo, Walp solo, closing chorus. Incomplete (1:30) on RJD-505. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Scrapple from the Apple 12" LP: Bird Box LP 18, VGM 0009 CD: Royal Jazz RJD 505, Blue Note 22626, Bird Box Volume 14, Philology Volume 32 (W 863) -Out of Nowhere 12" LP: Bird Box LP 18, VGM 0009 CD: Royal Jazz RJD 505, Blue Note 22626, Bird Box Volume 14, Philology Volume 32 (W 863) -Now's the Time 12" LP: Bird Box LP 18, VGM 0009 CD: Royal Jazz RJD 505, Blue Note 22626, Bird Box Volume 14, Philology Volume 32 (W 863) -52nd Street Theme 12" LP: Bird Box LP 18, VGM 0009 CD: Royal Jazz RJD 505, Blue Note 22626, Bird Box Volume 14, Philology Volume 32 (W 863) -Cool Blues (incomplete) CD: Royal Jazz RJD 505, Philology Volume 26 (W 857), Volume 32 (W 863), Volume 32 (Revised) (W 863) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This was a midnight All-Star jam session (the Howard staged such events regularly at this time). Another version of "Cool Blues" (with just a Parker-led quartet) is sometimes included with this session, but it belongs on March 8, 1953. Thanks to Carlos de Rosselló for help with these dates. ________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________ March 8, 1953 (4 items; TT = 18:05) Howard Theater, Washington DC Private recording (Tape) Charlie Parker Quartet: Charlie Parker (as); Jack Holliday (p); Franklin Skeete (b); Max Roach (d) -Ornithology (C. Parker-B. Harris) (incomplete) 4:20 -Out of Nowhere (E. Heyman-J.W. Green) 4:36 -Cool Blues (C. Parker) 4:13 Blue Note 22626 and Philology Volume 32 (Revised) omit the first 0:10. -Anthropology (D. Gillespie-C. Parker) 4:56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Ornithology (incomplete) 12" LP: VGM 0009 CD: Blue Note 22626, Philology Volume 18 (W 848), Volume 32 (W 863), Volume 59 (W 890) -Out of Nowhere 12" LP: VGM 0009 CD: Blue Note 22626, Philology Volume 18 (W 848), Volume 32 (W 863) -Cool Blues 12" LP: VGM 0009 CD: Blue Note 22626, Philology Volume 26 (W 857), Volume 32 (W 863) -Anthropology 12" LP: VGM 0009 CD: Blue Note 22626, Philology Volume 18 (W 848), Volume 32 (W 863) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philology Volume 18 does not identify the personnel. The version of "Cool Blues" on Philology Volumes 26 and 32 contains an additional 10+ seconds not included on Blue Note 22626 or on Philology 32 (Revised). In addition, there are speed differences that account for the variation in times for this track. Philology Volumes 26 and 32 place this "Cool Blues" on October 18, 1952, but it must belong here. Thanks to Carlos de Rosselló for help with these dates. _______________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________

Some more info on Bill Rank: http://www.lafayettejc.com/columns/2004052...085288494.shtml

He joined the band on April 1, 1952 as a replacement for Willie Smith and the last date where he appears on is February 25, 1953 (Apollo Theatre). There´s only one solo contribution from Jefferson on the issued recordings by the 1952 Ellington band, on the long version of "The mooche" (Ellington uptown). [sources: Timner & Lambert]