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Those strings sound synthesized ; maybe an ARP String Ensemble Synth ?? I've wondered about this too . The track " Good Time Soul " was not on the original vinyl or the current Fresh Sound CD . An outtake perhaps ? The current Fresh Sound CD does not have the original cover . However , Fresh Sound did issue the session on vinyl with the original cover ( and possibly on CD ? ) . It did not have " Good Time Soul " either . The Third World is actually a Various Artists date called " The Soul of Jazz Percussion " . Issued by Fresh Sound on CD , it is now OOP . Alan Saul's Booker Little discography has more details . It is an excellent date , though it has the typical Warwick gimmicky " Three Dimensional " stereo . Of course the TCBs are crap . Back in those days however , the Warwick LPs were rarae aves , and consequently , the TCBs were the only way to hear the music . I have five TCBs ; were there any more ?. I never saw any TCB reissues of the Warwick albums of Cootie Williams or Mary Osborne or Ralph Burns ( this last now available from Fresh Sound ) . The Curtis Fuller Boss of the Soul Stream Trombone was on TCB under Freddie Hubbard's name IIRC . It is worth having , as is the Pepper Adams-Donald Byrd Out of this World date which is Herbie Hancock's recording debut , and which as already noted , was issued under Hancock's name on TCB .

I seem to recall reading somewhere on the board that Rhyne was pretty unhappy with the Jazzland side . Notwithstanding the fact that looser blowing dates sometimes sound like rehearsals , the music Jazzland issued was , IIRC , in fact a rehearsal .

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IIRC the Concert Jazz Band (early 60s) recorded that "So What" as "Apple Core" (?) http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinfo.asp?number=221-MD-CD http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.a...umber=221-MD-CD F I have the records in question , but I am away from my collection right now and can't confirm that So What is the same as Apple Core , but another version of Apple Core is on this recording :

Laton is right , this one is utterly indispensable . Soundwise I think the CD sounds pretty decent , though IIRC it was remastered in the late 80's . I first heard this on a mono original pressing and the sound was stupendous , but where a decent stereo recording exists ( the CD is in stereo ) , I prefer that for big band records . The sound engineering on this date was by the great Bones Howe ( read more about him here ) . Also , don't miss the date Bill did for Coral: Available on CD from Fresh Sound . Can't vouch for the sound on that one , as I have the Sackville vinyl reissue . Fine music though .

The eternal answer.... Seriously , it seems to me the board never went on Daylight Savings Time , and has as a consequence been one hour behind since April . In a month or so we should see the board clock back in sync with the actual time . Of course , does anybody really know what time it is ? Does anybody really care ? If so I can't imagine why....

PM sent on Coolin' OJC .

All of the Herb Pomeroy recordings owned by EMI would make a very nice double-CD . The set would include , the Transition material, the Roulette material , the United Artists material and the never-issued Newport '58 material .

I like the first two Handy Roulettes , and there is a third , so a double-CD would be needed . Staying with Roulette , how about the two Bill Russo big band sides , School of Rebellion and Seven Deadly Sins on one CD ?

An Urbie Green / Lou Mecca CD would pair two of the rarest 10'' records . What else ? Well , the 10"s that were leased from Vogue aren't an option. There are the two volumes of Best From the West , but given the dismal sales of the West Coast Classics series I doubt such a CD would be greenlighted .

Re: the lack of really rare material in this boxset , one thing Mosaic might have done is issue the music that was actually heard in The Cool World film . Why the Philips soundtrack LP ( included in this boxset ) is not the music heard in the film is explained by Dizzy , " On the soundtrack of the movie The Cool World in 1963 , all I did was play . They hired me to play the music which was written by Mal Waldron . Mal was so nervous and everything , he was almost depending on me to get it together , to assemble the different stages of it for the film . I told him , " No , man , you get it together and you tell me what to do because this is yours , and I'll do what you want . " He finally put it together , but he was pretty nervous about it . Then they wanted to make an album from the soundtrack , and I told them , " No , no... " I wouldn't go for that . I would go into the studio and make an album of the music . But I wouldn't be responsible for the soundtrack of the movie ; I would be responsible for the album . We added some things ; the album wasn't just like the film ; I put a little Gillespiana in there , you know . So that's why it came out very well , beautifully . ---To Be or Not to Bop , page 462 . The band heard in the film consists of Dizzy with Yusef Lateef , Mal Waldron , Aaron Bell and Art Taylor . This music has never been available , and I don't think The Cool World has ever been available on VHS or DVD either .

So let me get this straight . When political correctness was at its zenith ( 1990 ) they reissued the CD with the Playboys cover , and when it was ebbing ( 1998 ) , they reissued the CD with the Picture of Heath cover . So what's the lesson here ? -- when it comes to marketing jazz CDs you can't alienate the all-important Women's Studies faculty member demographic ! Seems obvious that the kitsch value of the original cover would lead to more sales not fewer . Anyway , thanks for looking into this Kevin . Now , I ask again , could someone please look inside the Picture of Heath CD booklet and see if it contains Werner's or Selbert's liner notes , and could someone please post Werner's notes .

The Ptah the El Daoud* pre-listening checklist : red light bulbs joss sticks meditation cushion * substitute any of Alice's Impulse records to taste Earlier discussion re: Alice's Impulse work here .

I suppose anybody who owns 78s knows not to clean them with alcohol , as that will dissolve the shellac .

Here's what Leonard Feather wrote in the June 13th 1956 edition of Downbeat : Seems to me the development of four-mallet technique would narrow the gap some , between vibes and vibories . Still the harmonic possibilities are intriguing , particularly I would think , for programmatic music . I don't suppose anyone on this board has seen one of these instruments ? I imagine some musical instrument museum somewhere has one .

If you want to get serious you'll need some C-4 and this man.....

Deliberately obtuse response . Did you miss it ? : " If the Hefner story is not apocryphal , how is it that EMI was able in 1990 to reissue Playboys on CD with the original cover ? " You aren't thinking hard enough before your bilious ejaculations . Instead of posting your apology in a PM , how about this time posting one in public ?

O.K. I assume everyone here is familiar with the story of Hefner threatening legal action over the cover . Looks like a clear case of wordmark infringement , given that the typeface has been only slightly altered on a couple of the letters in the title . A retitled LP ( Picture of Heath ) didn't appear until 1961 if I recall correctly . Was the Playboys LP pulled from the shelves shortly after its release in 1957 or were Bock and co. able to sell their initial pressing run ? If the Hefner story is not apocryphal , how is it that EMI was able in 1990 to reissue Playboys on CD with the original cover ? And why was it re-reissued in 1998 with the Picture of Heath cover ? I notice that the 1990 CD does not have the original liner notes which were written by the late Swedish pianist Lars Werner . Cuscuna opted to let Pepper discographer Todd Selbert share his thoughts instead . Parenthetically , Cuscuna in 1990 also opted for Selbert's words over Whitney Balliet's when reissuing the John Lewis-Bill Perkins Grand Encounter side . I would like to know whether the 1998 Picture of Heath CD has Werner's notes or any of the four photos from the session that graced the back of the LP jacket ? Could someone please post Werner's liner notes ? As to the music on Playboys , well I think honors go to Art Pepper and Carl Perkins . Baker is a touch scrappier , less lyrical here . Phil Urso is somewhat faceless . Carl Perkins really catches the ear with his highly rhythmic , propulsive, bluesy approach , though on a couple of numbers as he is just gathering up a head of steam he has to give way to a ( poorly recorded ) Curtis Counce solo; a little less democracy in the allocation of solo space would have made for a better record . There's no real ballad on the record , just a couple of those relaxed , ambling numbers that made Left Coast jazz (in)famous . One of the real strengths of the date is the melodic writing of Jimmy Heath and Art Pepper .

I have and enjoy , Live at Peps , Before Dawn and some of the Riverside material . For some reason I never picked up any of 'Teef's Savoy output . As to how much of the Savoy material is available on CD , this is what I have come up with : All 5 tracks from this date came out on a 1994 Denon CD of the same name . ========================================= None of the 5 tracks from this date are on CD . ================================ All 5 tracks from this date came out on a 1994 Denon CD of the same name . All 5 also appear on the Last Savoy Sessions 2-CD set along with an unissued track from that date that appeared on a Various Artists Savoy LP entitled Jazz is Busting Out All Over. ========================================================================= Of the 7 tracks from this date , 3 are on the Last Savoy Sessions 2-CD set , and 4 are not available on CD . ======================================================================= All 5 tracks from this date are on the Last Savoy Sessions 2-CD set . =========================================== All 5 tracks from this date are on the Last Savoy Sessions 2-CD set . ================================================= 3 of the 7 tracks on this date are by the Yusef Lateef Sextet , the other 4 being by the A.K. Salim Octet . None of these tracks are on CD . ============================================================================== So if the above is correct , it looks as though 12 tracks await a CD reissue . The 6 Lateef-led dates also came out in the 70's on 3 different twofers entitled , Morning , Gong ! and Angel Eyes . Here is the CDUniverse link to the Last Savoy Sessions CD .

Sol Schlinger Beryl Booker Cy Coleman Sylvia Syms Rita Reyes Frances Faye

Perhaps you were thinking of the other Rollins' Metrojazz ( E-1002 ) : This one was out in 1999 on CD and did have four tracks done at Music Inn as bonus cuts : Limehouse Blues I'll Follow My Secret Heart You Are Too Beautiful Doxy These tracks are on Metrojazz E-1011 , so that leaves the other two tracks orphaned for now .

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