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Maybe, maybe not? Am I misremembering that the Mosaic page never had any ambiguity or hedging on the page (website) itself? I mean, originally this thread was started when someone just discovered it listed on the website -- and then only a couple/few days later was there an email explaining the "only if we get X number of order" stuff. But was there *ever* any of that on their website? I don't remember now. But I'm not 100% sure that the absence of ambiguity/hedging on the website is (necessarily) any indication of anything new about this set. (Anyone else remember?)

FWIW, I did a search on CDJapan.com (incl. out of print stuff), specifically for "In Japan", and absolutely no version came up at all (out of 6 pages of Joe Henderson releases over the last however man years). So it doesn't appear to be some recent Japanese CD reissue, best as I can tell. The host seems to have a Facebook page, but I have to confess - I've never been on Facebook. Just glancing at his page, does it look like something that's actually active? - like could he be contacted through is Facebook page? (Only asking, because it doesn't have any posts and such, like I normally seem to think I've seen before on FB). https://www.facebook.com/gavin.walker Here's his bio too... http://vancouverjazz.com/disc/artists/g_walker.shtml And there seems to be a contact phone number, in order to book him for gigs. Worst case, I could call that and see where that gets me.

Yeah, I've been on the lookout for this CD -- which combines "...Meets Her Old Pals" along with some piano trio recs of hers also from 1961. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_%E2%80%93_Toshiko_Akiyoshi (combined "1961" CD, with both sessions). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Yellow_Road_(Toshiko_Akiyoshi_Trio_album (trio only sessions, originally released on flexi-discs in a magazine (if I'm understanding right).) More about the "magazine" where those trio-recs originally came out... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asahi_Sonorama

I think the most logical explanation, or maybe plausible explanation would be more accurate... ...is that (maybe?) on the original Henderson's Habiliment release of this album in Japan (on Victor), that the last track really is "Back Narcissus". The timing, according to the link below, is rather close to the 13:05 length I estimated from the stream I found last night. On the "...Habiliment" LP, that length is 25-ish seconds longer, but add 5 seconds on the front -- and 20 seconds of applause on the back end (especially since it's the last track on side 2 of the LP), and that could totally be the exact same song length. https://www.discogs.com/Joe-Henderson-Hendersons-Habiliment/release/8960668 The host of the jazz show on that Vancouver station seems to have been there since the mid-80s, his name is Gavin Walker according to this link. I should try and reach out and see what the story is on this "deluxe" edition he played, and what the source is. https://www.citr.ca/radio/the-jazz-show/

Yeah, I could have sworn I've never heard "Black Narcissus" from this live session. FWIW, it can be heard at the 2h:21m:45s mark during the 3+ hour radio-show that can be streamed from this link (see my post above)... https://player.fm/series/citr-the-jazz-show-55506/trumpeter-ingrid-jensen-invisible-sounds-for-kenny-wheeler-plus-tenor-saxophone-master-joe-henderson-in-japan The tune runs from 2h:21m:45s through about the 2h:34m:50s mark. Or about 13:05 total. Also, hitting the play-button on my work-PC today, this came up as an mp3 in my standard media-player (totally differently than at home), so you may not have to jump through the hoops I detailed up above to get to the right time in the stream for this tune.

Took a little digging to find a site that had all the track times listed, albeit with the Japanese song-titles. In any case, better than nothing... https://tsutaya.tsite.jp/item/music/PTA00007YUC4

Was there ever a "deluxe edition" of this album released with five (5!) tunes?? Because I just stumbled on a two-part still stream-able radio-show that seems to have run 2 weeks ago, that includes 'broadcast' of the complete(?) 5-track version, which you can listen to here: https://player.fm/series/citr-the-jazz-show-55506/trumpeter-ingrid-jensen-invisible-sounds-for-kenny-wheeler-plus-tenor-saxophone-master-joe-henderson-in-japan I say two-part, because it's really a super-long 3+ hour show, the first half being Ingrid Jensen -- and the second half being "Joe Henderson In Japan" in it's (supposed) 5-track edition. The player is down at the bottom, and although it's not super intuitive, you can click your mouse on the grey "progress bar" that runs the entire width of your screen. There are also clickable "forward 30 seconds" and "backward 30 seconds" buttons down near the bottom too -- and it was only clicking them a whole bunch, did I even realize the almost invisible progress-bar that *will* let you click anywhere within the entire 3+ hour stream until you can sort of get to about the right spot. (BTW, part of the show where the announcer starts talking about Joe starts at about the 1h:36m:05s mark, followed by the entire "In Japan" 5-track version.) QUESTION: Discogs does NOT have any sort of 5-track version of "In Japan" listed on CD -- **was there ever one?? And out of what country??** PS: Here's the text-description of the radio-show, in case it ever gets taken down... Two Jazz Features are happening tonight....Ladies and gentlemen A DOUBLE FEATURE! As we were unable to broadcast live last week due to bad weather we are here live tonight and last week's planned Jazz Feature is on tap tonight. Canadian trumpet virtuoso Ingrid Jensen has a new album out and it's a beautiful tribute to the late great composer Kenny Wheeler. Ingrid and tenor saxophonist Steve Treseler, who doubles on clarinet and bass clarinet teams with Ingrid and piano giant Geoffrey Keezer, bassist Martin Wind and drummer Jon Wikan plus a cameo appearance by Ingrid's talented sister Christine on soprano saxophone in a series of Wheeler compositions.The music is fresh and vibrant and recently recorded in 2018 for the Whirwind label. "Invisible Sounds for Kenny Wheeler" explores the many lyrical, poignant and energetic compositional explorations by the immortal Kenny Wheeler. Our second Jazz Feature is called "Joe Henderson in Japan". It features the tenor saxophone giant at his very best supported by a Japanese rhythm section. It was recorded live in a small club full of very vocal enthusiasts. Joe was happy with the band and the audience ambiance and delivered one of his finest performances on record. For years on the domestic recording, only 4 lengthy tunes were issued but tonight we hear the deluxe edition with 5 tunes. Of the many many albums by Joe Henderson, this one stands near the top. Joe, of course was along with Wayne Shorter in the 1960s was someone who set the standard for tenor saxophone playing and he is still very influential today despite his passing in 2001 at age 64. Joe Henderson in Japan....don't miss this one! Tonight's DOUBLE FEATURE! TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE!

Dig this!

Listening to the CD now, there are only two (2) tracks that are trio-only -- #2 "Come Rain or Come Shine" and #6 "I Left My Heart in San Francisco". One track - #3 "Etude" - is just Mariano + piano trio (but it's a lovely, thoughtful track that's only ~2:30 in length). Then all of the other four (4) tracks are ALL seriously upbeat, every one of them cracking with energy -- and each with wild and thorny arrangements that rival any/all of the very best of the kind of writing specifically found on these 2 Mangelsdorf Quintet albums: "Tension" (aka "One Tension") from 1963, and "Now Jazz Ramwong" from 1964. In fact, FWIW, *NOTHING* I've ever heard (even from Manglesdorf himself, on any of his other albums from the 60's, and I've got all of them) reminds me as much of "Tension" and "Now Jazz Ramwong" -- as do these 4 upbeat tracks from Jazz Intersession/Inter-session. Trust me: I bought all that other Manglesdorf looking and hoping for more like Tension & Ramwong (but alas, there's just nothing quite like those two albums -- except the album I started this thread about). Again, FWIW.

And what is the mechanical stuff a picture of? - in the album cover? https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/awkb7s/closeupdetail_photo_from_an_obscure_1964_jazz/

Seems "Santa Barbara" (the same tune from YouTube in post #2 above), was also recorded by Toshiko's big band in 1965. Toshiko Mariano, that is!! I can't seem to find the full-track on-line, but it (and the whole album it comes from ) can be sampled here... https://itunes.apple.com/md/album/toshiko-mariano-her-big-band/300932419

OK, here's ANOTHER full-length track I just found from the album, at time-index 10:38 in this YouTube upload. If the embedded video below doesn't start at 10:38, just click on this bare URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLWke7up6o&t=638s But this following embedded video will hopefully go to that specific time-index: "Jinku" 10:38

Not much of it is uploaded/online, but you can also listen to 45-second samples of every track at the following link(s)... http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/KICJ-2250 then click on "Listen Samples", which takes you here... http://www.neowing.co.jp/product/KICJ-2250/track?from_cdj=1 ALSO, if you look for the two (2) different "listen" icons near the bottom of this page (right under the line-up of musicians on the session), you can also hear nearly 2-minute long samples of two more of the full-band tunes (not sure which ones off the top of my head). But this'll give you a pretty good sense of, dare I say, how FRISKY!! - this whole damn album is!! https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.domicile-records.com/%3Fpid%3D88333695&prev=search (Or non-translated: http://www.domicile-records.com/?pid=88333695 ) PS: BTW, those two links seems to point (directly) to these mp3 links -- which I think you can play directly by clicking below... http://domicile.heteml.jp/88333695a.mp3 (1:50 long sample of one track) http://domicile.heteml.jp/88333695b.mp3 (2:04 long sample or another track)

SO, anyone else have this album? - or heard it? Here's one of the very best tunes, "Santa Barbara", which really gets right to everything I love about this album (and maybe you can also hear the Mangelsdorf Quintet similarities(?) -- NOT that I'm suggesting any sort of direct connection or influence (in either direction). Or if there is some kind of relationship or influence, that'd sure as hell be wild (being from such disparate countries). 4 or 5 (of the total of 7 tracks) are kinda like this, some with periods of collective improv too. And most of the tracks are seriously "tight" and spritely!! -- just like those Mangelsdorf dates (circa 1963-64), although 2 of the tracks are just piano-trio only (iirc), and more subdued. Here's "Santa Barbara":

I picked this super-recent Japanese SHM-CD reissue from The Bastards about a month ago, and I have to say that it's turned out to be one of THE most quirky, fascinating, and lively albums I've heard since specifically those two fantastic Albert Mangelsdorf Quintet albums from around the same year: "Tension" (aka "One Tension") from 1963, and "Now Jazz Ramwong" from 1964. In fact, there's a sort of odd similarity in the overall sound between this (probably little-known?) Mariano date, and the two Mangelsdorf dates. Anyway, here are some details... https://www.dustygroove.com/item/900142/Charlie-Mariano:Jazz-Intersession According to Dusty: A rare Japanese session from American reedman Charlie Mariano – and one of the few recorded documents of his time on the Tokyo scene! The album really captures Charlie at a pivotal – and under-recorded – point in his career – definitely stretching out from the tight lines of his Boston years, yet also still holding back from some of the trippier styles he'd explore more freely on the European scene. This sense of being at the edge really holds throughout the entire album – and even familiar tunes have some structures that are less familiar than you might expect – as Charlie blows alto with deep sense of soul, in the company of a group that includes Masao Yagi on piano, Hideo Shiraki on drums, Akira Fukumara on trumpet, and Hidehiko Matsumoto on tenor and soprano sax! Titles include "Etude", "Santa Barbara", "Rootie", "G Low", and "Come Rain Or Come Shine". http://www.charliemarianotribute.de/disco1964.html Personnel: Charlie Mariano – alto saxophone Hidehiko Matsumoto – soprano & tenor saxophones Akira Fukuhara – trumpet Masao Yagi – piano Masanaga Harada – bass Hideo Shiraki – drums Titles: G-Low Come Rain Or Come Shine Etude Santa Barbara (Charlie Mariano) Rootie I Left My Heart In San Francisco Jinku Recorded February 8, 10 & 11, 1964 at Nippon Toshi Centre Hall, Tokyo, Japan Released by Wave (Japan) WWLJ-7108 and King (Japan) SKJ 1058 And a lovely cover that's growing on me too...

I've had all the same kinds of issues with Pandora too -- it's really difficult to get it to play stuff that isn't more pedantic (than what I'm looking for), no matter what I seed it with. Still, I take it as a challenge to try and force Pandora to serve up more interesting stuff than it wants to, for me. I've dabbled with Spotify, but I've never played with it enough to see if it really can do what Pandora claims it can do -- which (like you, Jim) -- is be more like an esoteric radio-station. Spotify might well have a much deeper catalog, but if I have to know (myself) what I'm looking for -- and can't (seem to) get it to mix things up for me (without me having to mix them up myself), then that explains why I've stayed with Pandora (despite all its limitations). What I really *WANT* is a Pandora where I can check a box that says "Yeah, go ahead and play DEEPER ALBUM CUTS that nobody knows". Or maybe I should trying to seed single stations with conflicting tunes (in the same station) -- Gang of Four + Hindemith + Mulatu Astatke (aka the Éthiopiques vol 4 guy) -- and then also (somehow) figure out what's similar about all of those seemingly disparate kinds of music -- and then reach out to god-knows-what-else that also has that same "it" factor that's common to Gang of Four, and Hindemith, and Mulatu Astatke. That's what I want.

Ditto. I only stream music on my phone, either with my iPhone built-in speaker (getting ready in the bathroom in the morning), and on my commute to/from work. Pretty much only use Pandora, which has its limitations, but I'm mostly listening to oddball alternative music on stations with seeds using bands like Interpol, Gang of Four, The Church, The English Beat, The Jam, Joe Jackson, Pete Townshend (solo), Lindsey Buckingham (solo), and the like. SOME jazz, but that only gets interesting if it give it station seeds that are kinda off the wall, like Dusko Goykovich, or Rabih Abou Khalil. (Seeding Pandora with anything even remotely "normal" - yields a lot of fairly timid results.) ANYWAY, despite it's limitations, it's kind of fun trying to "trick" Pandora into serving up stuff that's less than mainstream (or played-out). And I get about 2 ad-breaks per hour, which is more than tolerable. Nothing I'm going to pay $60 a year to avoid (perfectly good money I can spend elsewhere). I *hate* paying for parking, and I *hate* paying for subscriptions to things I really don't need all that much.

bass / trumpet (and flugelhorn) / guitar (electric & acoustic) -- so a bit atypical -- but I sure like this one... Fingerpainting - the music of Herbie Hancock https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/482/MI0001482076.jpg https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/258/MI0001258688.jpg

I'm really of two minds about this movie. On the face of it, it's pretty good in a lot of ways, and I did enjoy it. But it does have a bit of Hollywood simplicity about it - or else maybe the balance of drama and comedy felt too carefully calibrated (equal parts of both, to my recollection). The acting was somewhere between good and great -- but I just felt like the whole thing needed about 20% more depth to it, or heft, or something. I was pretty stunned it got Best Picture, but then when you read about the ranked voting process they use (not sure 'ranked voting' is precisely the right term, but it's pretty close), it's NOT great surprise that the movie that got the most votes (even if a great majority of them might have had the film ranked in 3rd place). Which is to say that any film that really divides people, or just as many people loved as those who were put off by it -- is likely not going to score as well under such a system. I for one would have much rather seen Roma get best picture myself, but at least Bohemian Rhapsody didn't get it I suppose. I enjoyed seeing Green Book, but overall I'd give it about a solid B+ (at best), though all the performances in it were all enjoyable, and well performed. Still, for me, it seemed to be just a little too Hollywood for its own good.

For a good 10-15 years now, ETCETERA has been my #1 favorite Shorter leader-date. I don't think(?) there's been a Japanese SHM-CD issue of it, but if so, I'd be temped to get it that way (and I otherwise rarely upgrade very many CD's I have).

Nothing like that listed on the proposed discography -- which I suppose isn't already set in stone (but it probably might as well be)... http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.asp?number=268-MD-CD I think the *only* totally previously unissued track is this one... B): NO ROOM FOR SQUARES: Lee Morgan, trumpet; Hank Mobley, tenor saxophone; Andrew Hill, piano; John Ore, bass; Philly Joe Jones, drums (October 2, 1963). Tk.18 Me 'N You (alt tk) previously unissued

I sure the heck wish Tolliver's Paper Man would come out on CD someday. There was an mp3 release (legit) several years ago (maybe with one bonus alternate, I can't remember - I never bought it, as I don't really do downloads much). I've got a nice burn of it off an LP from someone here 10+ years ago, but I'd love to have it legit on CD -- just about the only Tolliver leader-date I don't have on CD, iirc.

> Anthony Cox "Dark Metals" (hole punch in tray card) ...a fine album with *Dewey Redman* in especially fine form, plus Billy Higgins (and Mike Cain, piano), recommended!