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Hmmm... Fathead with Horace. Thought sure it would have been Bennie Maupin, given the timeframe (I presume the latter-half of '68). Any other recorded evidence of Newman with Silver in the 60's?? None that comes to my mind, but perhaps I'm overlooking something.

I'd be pissed.

Wild guess... 60% of this is total crap, 30% of it is at least "interesting", and 10% is "fantastic"!! I wouldn't pay to hear it, but I'd sure love to hear it sometime - just to find that 10%.

Wasn't all that long ago, really, when on-line samples were fairly few and far between - or a least a new thing. I distincly remember when Allmusic first starting making them available... Backdoor into Allmusic Guide - W/ AUDIO-SAMPLES!! Goof-up, but I've still got the URL's!!! (2004)

Also missed this thread the first time around. I dabbled in a number of things here and there, mostly as a kid -- but when push came to shove, the only thing I was the least bit skilled at was choral singing (baritone). Thus my only claim to (lack of) fame was that I sang in a professional symphony chorus for almost 10 years (Kansas City Symphony Chorus). I also played piano as a kid from about the age of 6 until about 14 (I never liked it much, and never got as far as I should have gotten by that age). Also, took a semester of jazz piano in college, but also didn't give that much effort either, I'm afraid. Played Clarinet (poorly) for a couple years in grade-school (about ages 11-13), including about a year of Bass Clarinet, and a couple months of oboe (I was truly horrid on Oboe). I do love singing (especially choral singing), and really love the big, late Romantic era works, and early 20th Century thorniness even more!!

Quick, somebody move this to politics, stat!

BTW, here's the link that goes to page 1 of the story... Jazz Apprentices Still Find Their Masters

Man, that is one cool pick of Dewey Redman, with the shades. <= Click to embiginate!

Finally, vindication!

In the book, how's the coverage of jazz tunes written after about 1963 or so? And although I don't expect much (if anything) after 1980, is there discussion of any jazz tunes written in the 70's?

Or maybe another angle: What are the most significant albums that feature tunes written by Bill Lee? (And would it be fair to say those tunes represent him best?)

"John Coltrane"?

Much as I adore "Beatrice" (the tune, which is maybe one of my two or three alltime-favorite jazz tunes ever!), I do think the degree to which it's 'bound by chords' would have been very much in oposition to Miles wanting to break away from the 'tyranny of chords'. (I'm writing this instead of what I was tempted to post, which was to suggest it might have been interesting to hear Miles playing "Beatrice" -- but the fact is that it probably wouldn't have worked.)

Just listened to both of the long, trippy clips from Youtube - and am gonna pull the trigger on this one. As I mentioned before, if this had been on any other label and by any lesser-known leader, I think it would be better though of (or the glass is definitely half full, even if you want to insist it's half empty).

Bump to ask again if "John Coltrane" is Bill Lee's best-known tune? Or if not, then what is? (Not that anything he wrote is especially well known.) Here's a couple recent versions.

Wasn't sure how to vote. Back in the day I could get of one side with all the connecting edge-pieces in their right places, AND I could get the middle-layer too (all the way around). It was just the last "side" I could never get.

Always been curious what a Miles studio date might have sounded like with Sam. Doubt it would have been a perfect fit, but I'm sure it would have been interesting.

Doubt anybody here will like this, but I'm posting it anyway. I'm not much of a big BadCo fan, but I'm totally down for Free, and have a soft spot for The Firm. The Firm, with Paul Rodgers and Jimmy Page...

Quite a number of Bill Lee tunes to be found on this album (which I've never heard, but have always been curious about)... The Brass Company, Colors (Strata-East, 1974/5) Is this worth tracking down? It sure looks good on paper.

Would it be fair to say that "John Coltrane" is Lee's best known tune?? (I've cued my link to the beginning of the head, and to the best known recording that I know of it, namely from Clifford Jordan's "Glass Bead Games", Strata-East 1973). Or if not "John Coltrane", are there any other more notable Bill Lee tunes that are or should be more widely known?? FYI, Lee also penned two other tunes from the same "Glass Bead Games" session(s): "Eddie Harris" and "Biskit". Also, FYI, "John Coltrane" was co-written by Bill and Clifton(?) Lee (how is/was CLifton related to Bill?) -- and the other two were only by Bill Lee.

Is that voice-over, by any chance, Burgess Meredith?? More than "just kinda" sounds like it to me, though I'll admit I probably haven't heard Meredith's voice in 20 years (at least). Here's Burgess reading some Ray Bradbury, if anyone wants to hear him in 'non-Penguin' mode.

Question for any of my fellow Kansas Citians: Did she come up as a performer in KC? If so, what venue(s) did she ever perform in (in and around KC), assuming she was ever a local artist in KC. I'm assuming she was long gone by the time I caught wind of her a couple years ago (back when I still lived in KC, having moved to Washington DC about a year ago).