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Not at all your typical Scofield effort, but I really like "Quiet" from 1996 (on Verve). Totally got a Gil Evans vibe to it (to my ears), with a 'larger' small group of about ten... The basic band has Scofield (exclusively on nylon-string acoustic guitar), with Wayne Shorter on tenor, bassist Steve Swallow, and either Bill Stewart or Duduka Da Fonseca on drums. They are joined by trumpeter Randy Brecker, two French horns, two woodwinds, Roger Rosenberg on bass clarinet, and Howard Johnson on tuba and baritone. (source) Anybody else have this one?? Not exactly "exciting" in the most conventional sense, but a beautiful album never the less.

No appology necessary, TJC3, from my point of view. Do please stick around, and again, welcome.

Yes, and no. Personally I think Dan has his better phases, and his worse -- his ups and downs. So too have a number of us here. (I started to name names, but that would have really gotten weird -- so I'll just say that hopefully you know who you are -- and even if you don't, the rest of us sure do ( ) -- and maybe I should count myself in both camps ). I don't have an easy solution -- 'cept to say that if the most difficult behavior was curtailed, and/or at least softened a little more often than not -- then this place would probably NOT have as many periodic ups and downs (nor as many headaches for our good host Jim). Think a little before you post, people. I'm no saint, but one of the best things I've done in recent years is stuff I *haven't* posted. And for the record, yes, I'm defending Dan (who has a long history with us here, and even "before here") --- while at the same time, I am pissed at him taking the "welcome committee" to new heights depths.

I never owned a Beatles CD until about a year ago, when I found cheap used copies of Revolver, Rubber Soul, and Abby Road. I assembled a nearly complete Beatles collection (making cassette recordings from LP's), when I was back in Jr. High (circa 1982) -- and those tapes lasted me all through high school, and I never looked back (and never had a need for them after that). Now, I did buy some bootlegs back in the early 90's (the complete "Ultra Rare Trax" series (1-6), plus a couple of the "Unsurpassed Masters" series), cuz I did have a thing about unreleased recordings. And I did buy all three of the "Anthology" series (used) in the years after they came out, cuz I did have a thing about wanting to hear alternates and demos. BUT, the core catalog got deep enough in my bones in jr high and high school, that I never felt the need to actually own any of that material. Yeah, I'm weird that way.

You mean this?? Are we sure this is the same tune as the better-known "Katanga"?? (I guess if you're listening to it, then at least you're sure.) >>> CLICK <<< JAZZ ALL STARS Featuring: Dave Brubeck / Coleman Hawkins / Buddy Collette / Larry Bunker / Stan Levy / Conti Condoli / Emil Richards / Cal Tjader Modern Records MST 827 Side One Glen's Orbit Bongolo Minor Chocolo Crazy Time Side Two Cloud Burst Katanga Zity Comparison Journey's End

Yes sir...

Dan, take a chill pill. While I agree with much of the substance of what you were saying, Dan, I totally disagree with the way you went about saying it. Welcome, TJC3, Our 'welcoming committee' was a little over zealous (not the first time), but we're mostly a lot more fun once you get to know us. Indestructible! - you echoed my thoughts exactly.

Took it, accepted it. You seem to be pretty thin skinned yourself. I have no problem with criticisms. What I have an issue with is rudeness and arrogance. I might need help, you sir need manors. At least I asked.

Sorry to say that the only Wayne on soprano that I particularly like is his playing with Miles circa '68-'70. (Which I think are exclusively live documents, IIRC). I'm sure I'm somewhat in the minority on this, but I'm just not all that enamored with soprano in general (Wayne, or otherwise).

Here's to hoping it was MORE than worth the wait!!

OK, so I've already got everything Curtis released (solo, under his own name) up through 1975. So, then, I've already got all of this... Curtis (1970) Curtis/Live! (1971) [live] Roots (1971) Super Fly (1972) Back to the World (1973) Got to Find a Way (1974) Sweet Exorcist (1974) There's No Place Like America Today (1975) My question is: Is there anything Curtis recorded AFTER 1975, that's worth seeking out?? I'm NOT expecting any 5-star albums (cuz I know there aren't any to be found after '75), and frankly not any 4-star albums either. But are there any golden nuggets (even just a few individual tracks) worth finding among all that coal??

Agree, but the individual track "Tutu" is one hell of a good tune (among Miles' 80's work, at least).

Well, in my own defense, I originally clicked on the latter thread thinking it was about Harry Partch.

Where did I ever say this was the label's? decision?? I'm complaining about stores who never stock even the most basic and obvious reissue product (the same stores that used to), even when it was clearly and easily available to stock. And had they done so, and made the product available (in store, without a special order), I would have likely bought said product (RVG's and Conns, how much more basic can you get?). In my experience, the jazz buyers at all the chains (even what used to be semi-decent regional chains) don't know jack shit about jazz. I don't mean "not much" - I mean "Miles Davis and Kenny G" might be the only jazz artists they could mention of the top of their heads. There use to be a dedicated jazz and classical buyer for the midwest Streetside chain. When they got bought up by some conglomerate back east, I think there was one buyer for the entire chain (rock, pop, everything, including what little jazz they bought).

How does the near total absence of even remotely half-way interesting new titles or re-issues, in ACTUAL STORES, mean I don't have a clue?? I thought the crux of this thread was about plummeting CD sales (and/or plummeting music sales). The near total lack of stock in stores is one aspect of this. That was my point, and I'm sticking to it. There have been, and continue to be a wealth of interesting things available on-line, but I'm guessing most casual listeners (and 'jazz consumers') weren't going that route before, and haven't shifted. For the most part, I think people are spending their entertainment dollars elsewhere -- or, more likely, people don't have nearly as many entertainment dollars to spend. In fact, if you look at the chart in the article -- the HUGE drop-off for jazz was from 2007 to 2008. Otherwise, sales seemed a bit more flat, though declining somewhat over those years. Nothing else dropped as fast or as far as jazz during the last year that the data in the chart shows.

Doesn't help that there isn't shit worth buying (new releases, or interesting reissues), almost anywhere to be found. And even when there was (5 or 6 years ago), local retailers didn't and still don't stock shit -- even bread 'n' butter Blue Note reissues (not even RVG's, let alone Conns). Can't buy stuff, when there isn't stuff to buy. Chicken?? or Egg?? You tell me. But one thing's for sure -- it isn't "all the kids downloading" that's killing jazz CD sales. They weren't buying jazz to begin with. 10 years ago I used to buy two or three CD's a week, many weeks (in an actual store) -- but now I'm lucky to find one jazz CD per month to buy (new or used) in actual stores around here (Kansas City). Chicken or Egg??

And some nice ones with both Turrentine brothers too, plus a few other names you can't go wrong with... (A) Horace Parlan (p), Sam Jones (b), Al Harewood (d). February 29,1960 (B) Horace Parlan (p), George Tucker (b), Al Harewood (d). April 20,1960 (C) Tommy Turrentine (tp), Stanley Turrentine (ts), Horace Parlan (p), George Tucker (b), Al Harewood (d). July 14,1960 (D) Horace Parlan (p), George Tucker (b), Al Harewood (d), Ray Barretto (cga). December 6,1960 (E) Tommy Turrentine (tp), Stanley Turrentine (ts), Horace Parlan (p), George Tucker (b), Al Harewood (d). March 18,1961 (F) Booker Ervin (ts), Grant Green (g), Horace Parlan,(p), George Tucker (b), Al Harewood (d). June 18,1961 (G) Johnny Coles (tp), Booker Ervin (ts), Grant Green (g), Horace Parlan (p), Butch Warren (b), Billy Higgins (d). February 15,1963

Damn, that is quite a lot of inventory. 100 Parlan sets??

I think the real unsung hero here might be Coleridge Perkinson (piano, music director). His playing really fits the mood of the session well (in much the way McCoy Tyner might have fit well here too). But moreover, the whole session just hangs together great. Not an easy thing, for a group made up of such disparate musical styles and musicians -- and I'm guessing Perkinson, being the music director on the date, had a lot to do with it. FYI, Perkinson also directed the vocal group on Donald Byrd's "A New Perspective" (Blue Note, early '63), as he did the vocal group on Max Roach's "Lift Every Voice and Sing" (1971, Atlantic).

Am I the only one who thinks there ought to be some kind of graphic (even a little one) that clues people in on the fact this is an organ trio?? Maybe a caricature of a B3, somehow?? Or some drawbars?? Or a Leslie cabinet, especially and specifically with the rotating speaker visible?? Something B3-ish?????? Thought this all along, but didn't want to rain on anybody's parade with the designs already worked up. But, since this thread is supposed to be closed anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Wouldn't this have to be footage of the Robert Herridge CBS broadcast of April 2, 1959, no?? If there was actual footage of the original recording sessions, that would be some SERIOUS news. Alas, I'm guessing this 'press release' has inaccurately described the source and/or nature of the footage.

Most of us don't... ...but whether ALL of us don't, depends on whether you refer to all of US, or just to all of YOU (pl.).

This AAJ review (slightly edited by me for space, and with emphasis added here and there) nicely sums up the bonus session specifically... source