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As Chuck so correctly noted, "Black Fire" isn't anything like "Passing Ships", though you can hear much of Hill's quirky piano technique in both (which is oddly consistent between most of his more inside and outside recordings, at least within a given decade). While I wouldn't call "Black Fire" incredibly accessible, I would say that I think it's one of Hill's most approachable recordings from Hill's early '63-'66 period (and it's definitely more accessible/approachable than "Point of Departure". Anyone who digs "Dialog" will probably also like "Black Fire".

Not the PFunkJazz I remember from back on the old BNBB. -_-

Hey Chuck, would it change your opinion of my degree of Andrew Hill fanaticism if I told you that I only half-dig Smokestack?

The Plugged Nicke box is 7 standard CD jewelboxes, with standard linernotes for each CD, all in one slipbox -- so the whole thing ends up being approximately the size of a cube (roughly). There's also a booklet that is the size of the footprint of a standard jewelbox, which fits in the slipbox too. Note: One of the jewelboxes is actually a two-CD jewelbox, since that set was slightly over 80 minutes in length - and had to be split on 2 CD's. As a result, the discs are numbered 1, 2a, 2b, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 (which makes perfect sense to me). Nothing terribly fancy about the set, but neither did they do anything dumb when they designed it either -- and the importance of that cannot be underestimated. If only the Bill Evans Verve box was as well done, design-wise (for instance). FYI, here's a good pic of the Plugged Nickel box: CLICK HERE

I think I heard something about Friendster on NPR a few months ago, and promptly forgot all about it. Just added you as a friend, Brandon. Is there an Enemyster too?? (Ha - it looks like there will be!!)

Off topic, slightly, but Brandon -- if you get the chance, try to get over to the National Building Museum while you're in DC. It's just about my favorite museum in all DC, and with their ever-changing exhibits - I try to stop by there nearly every time I'm in town. (I think I've been there about 3 or 4 times, in the last maybe 8 years.) Here's how to get there, and their hours: CLICK HERE. They appear to be open on Saturdays -- and actually, entry to the museum is free, though they suggest a donation. (And there's a Metro station right at the Museum.) If I lived in or anywhere near DC, I'd probably be visiting this place at least 2 or 3 times a year, like clockwork. Back to the rest of the discussion about where you ought to live.

Sure glad that "Black Fire" is gonna be easily available again. It'll be nice to have better sound, and those alternates at the end of the disc too. (Yeah, I've got the Mosaic -- but I'm sure I'll be picking this up as an RVG too.) Good to have more of Joe Henderson's BN catalog getting updated too.

I never knew it. Cool!! B)

From the Feb/Mar 1998 issue of JAM Magazine (a local Kansas City jazz magazine)...

Longer version of the AP version of the article. Also from the KC Star (Spoon's paper)...

About 15 years ago, I took a bunch of top-40 promo singles (many without artwork, some even without jewelboxes even), and managed to get rid of them at a pawn shop that didn't know up from down. What I offered them probably wasn't even worth $10 (total!!!), but they gave me $3 cash for every one of the CD's I gave 'em (promo singles included, which most of these were), and I walked out of there about $400 richer. Place sold guns mostly, and they were tryin' to diversify their inventory. Both guys were some serious "bubbas", and didn't even hardly know what a CD was. The discs were all crap I got from the top-40 radio station I worked at part-time in college. None of the record stores around town would even touch the stuff, so I thought maybe a pawn shop would give me $20 for the whole thing. But NEVER in my wildest dreams did I expect to make $400 on that stuff. Wow, them were the days!!!

YEAH!!!! Give all our best to your wife. We're all very happy for you!!!! CONGRATS!!!!

Reminds me of a series of three articles I saw on Slate last month. Won't go to the trouble to 'cut-n-paste' them over here (mostly because they look better in their native format, with pics and links, etc...). I found these facinating to read, and I plan to by the author's new book related to the subject, due out next year. from... Dispatches From Girls Gone Wild by Ariel Levy... Ariel Levy is a contributing editor at New York magazine. Her first book, a nonfiction exploration of the rise of raunch culture and the fall of feminism, will be published in spring 2005. From: Ariel Levy (part 1) Subject: Girls Get Naked for T-Shirts and Trucker Hats Monday, March 22, 2004, at 1:17 PM PT Link: http://slate.msn.com/id/2097485/entry/2097496 From: Ariel Levy (part 2) Subject: The View From the Sidelines of the "Sexy Positions Contest" Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 12:52 PM PT Link: http://slate.msn.com/id/2097485/entry/2097653 From: Ariel Levy (part 3) Subject: Spanking on the Beach Wednesday, March 24, 2004, at 12:38 PM PT Link: http://slate.msn.com/id/2097485/entry/2097739 I had thought about posting these here sometime, but just never got around to it -- and this thread is as good as any to discuss them. Do give them a read, they're very interesting, IMHO.

Didn't we break the board one time?? -- with a couple dozen embedded quotes within each other?? Come on, I'm sure somebody here remembers that, right?? (And the only people still reading this thread by now, are the people who have been around long enough to remember that. ) EDIT: I don't mean we broke the whole board -- but there was this one thread that was TOTALLY messed up. I'm not talking about the messed up threads on the old BNBB, where the posts were all in random order (there was one Ornette thread like that, if I remember). But I'm talking about an Organissimo thread where like part of the board (outside the thread), started to appear inside some of the innermost quotes. All I remember is that it was really, REALLY weird!!!

An update... Got a letter in the mail just now, saying that the position had been filled by another candidate. I was at least hoping to have gotten an interview.

Anybody else here like Birch Beer?? Or Sarsaparilla?? Or Ginger Beer?? (Ginger Beer is the strongest of the three.) Whole bunch of Root Beer ratings and other related info here: www.root-beer.info

"S". Definitely "S".

Could these perhaps be the old pre-JRVG "TOCJ" masterings??? I can't imagine how they could be, but who the hell knows?? Would love to see a complete list, if one ever becomes available. I might just try to track a few of these down, particularly for some sessions never released in the US, for which there are no alternate takes or bonus tracks. (Too good to be true, I know. I'm not getting my hopes up.) EDIT: 100 different BN TOCJ "1500 series" discs listed here: LINK. Of course, I can't read what they are. I suppose there's a list (in English) of TOCJ's 1501-1600 somewhere on-line, wouldn't ya think?? Any indication if these are the old pre-JRVG series?? I've never owned any JRVG's (hate the mini-LP format), and I'm really not up on what's what with Japanese BN's.

Did you check the expiration date??

Actually, I was thinking of Wynton Kelly having to follow Trane on all those various live recordings from that Miles tour of Europe in the spring of 1960. In particuluar, I was thinking of this one:

Oh man, ain't that the truth.

I thought that was us??

I've got, or at least used to have this (my discs are all over the house, and I can't remember having seen it for some time). Haven't heard it in years, but my memory of it is that it was a pretty good disc. Maybe a bit on the short side (30-minutes or so, not much more), but overall - more interesting than it could have been.