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• October 31, 1967: Andrew Hill (leader), with Woody Shaw, Robin Kenyatta, Sam Rivers, Howard Johnson, Herbie Lewis, Teddy Robinson 5 tracks Since it's never been released before. Woody Shaw and Sam Rivers -- together!!! Hmmmmmmm............. Could have been very interesting. That, or maybe Tryone Washington's "Trainwreck"...

It'll never happen as an RVG. Conn is the only way we'll ever see those last four Larry Young BN sessions as individual discs.

Yeah, just got your second PM just now. PM's seem to be working, despite the errors.

I sent two messages, and it appears that you only got the second one (which really didn't say anything besides "did you get the first one???" ). I just replied to your message, but got the same error... Mail Error! Could not send the email Failed at 'mail' command But hopefully the message got through. If not, let me know here...

Hey, Connie500!!! I just tried to send you a PM, but got a 'mail' error. Not sure if you got it, and my second attempt at a PM got the same error. If you didn't get the PM, and/or can't PM me back -- lemme know in this thread.

Both of these would be MUCH more likely to come out as RVG's, since they've already been released on CD in the U.S. before. Conns (without exception, I think) are only dates that have never had a CD release in the U.S. (That said - Soothsayer and Tomcat would both make good RVG's.)

You don't mean Bob Mintzer, do you?? Among other things, his AMG bio says he's "led a fine big band in New York since the mid-'80s."

Vote early, but not often -- and vote for as many titles as you like. I'll tally the results, and even without Kevin - we'll get the results to Cuscuna. Anything goes, including ideas for sessions that haven't ever been released yet -- either to be released on their own, or as bonus tracks on the back of some other rare title. Anybody still have the results of the last time we did this??

OK, given the relatively 'mainstream' nature of the RVG series, and also BN's frequent preference for having RVG remaster titles that were already released on CD in the U.S. in the late 80's or very early 90's (with remastering jobs that are now well out-of-date).... What would be some solid logical choices for the RVG series - for BN recordings recorded after 1965??? This shouldn't be too hard to do, since most of the RVG series has favored the 50's and early 60's, with only a few exceptions. Some post-1965 RVG examples (I think this is all of them, so far), have included... HERBIE HANCOCK - The Prisoner (1969) JOE HENDERSON - Mode For Joe (1966) HORACE SILVER - In Pursuit Of The 27th Man (1970/1972) DONALD BYRD - Slow Drag (1967) I'll go first, by nominating this... McCoy Tyner - Tender Moments (1967) It was last released in the U.S. as a McMaster in 1990, and repressed as a Collectors Choice in 1995 (with the same 1990 remastering). I don't think the 1990 remastering is the worst I've ever heard, but this session is probably as 'mainstream' as any of McCoy's BN output, after "The Real McCoy" - and would probably sell pretty well, I would think. Again, let's all be logical about this. BN ain't gonna release those Kenny Cox dates as RVG's, no matter how much we'd like 'em to. (Nor Tyrone Washington, for that matter.) And oh, much as we might like BN to rerelease a few dates from the 80's - like maybe Bobby Watson's... CLEARLY the RVG series has been for pre-1975 dates only. (So no crazy ideas from the George Adams camp either. )

What, you mean that "Ack Värmeland du Sköna" wouldn't sell very well over here???

Laundry never ends, but it's not all that bad either. I never buy anything that need ironing, so that helps a whole bunch!!!

Since I pretty much hate all sports, do I have to list the name every team that I can think of in this thread???

I've seen it go for over $40 on eBay, about six months ago. I got mine a couple years ago from Tower Records (dot com). I was on a big Woody Shaw kick at the time (and still am!!!!), and someone suggested the Tryone disc to me, and said it was something I had to have. I did a search of all the on-line sources, and couldn't find it anywhere. Expect I did happen to find it at Tower Records (dot com), for about $25 (new), but they only had like 2 or 3 "in stock". Now Tower still has it listed in their system, for $28.99 -- but it's a special order, and I'm sure (since it's long out of print now), they couldn't fulfill an order for it, even if they tried. Right now, I'm betting a sealed one would go for between $35 and $50 on eBay - depending on who happened to discover the auction. (Maybe more?) $27 is a very decent price for this title, especially one that was still sealed. Not quite 'a steal', but a very decent price.

Very good. I'm sure glad somebody here got it, and it couldn't have happened to a sweller guy than you!! I think I must have added it to my 'want list' a long time ago, and forgot all about it. Glad I did though, cuz I was glad to see somebody here get one (and sealed too!), at a really decent price.

That thread is HERE, and I took the liberty of bumping that thread to further the discussion about Ron Carter on "Grass Roots".

That's funny you mention that Al, 'cuz I remember Jim having almost a completely opposite opinion regarding Carter on that session. See the GRASS ROOTS album of the week thread. I thought I leaned slightly towards Sangry's opinion about Ron Carter on "Grass Roots" - but it was never a very strong opinion I held. I may have to go back and revisit this. PS: The above two quotes (quote within a quote, really), were from another Andrew Hill thread, FYI...

I had the Tyrone disc on my want-list from half.com too, so I got the same e-mail. Shit, if I had known that you would have gotten the same e-mail, I woulda kept my mouth shut. (Or did you get it??? - I sure hope so!!!)

So, Big Al, have you checked out the sound-samples of "Lift Every Voice" yet?? See my most recent post above this one. Any reactions??