Rooster_Ties

Wow!!!

Blasphemy!!!!!!! Haven't we banned members of this board for lesser offences??? Immediately delete the offending post above, and write a 500-word essay on the hidden virtues of “Dance with Death” and the 2nd LP from “One for One” (which, collectively, are the only previously released Blue Note material from Andrew Hill, which haven’t yet been released on CD anywhere in the board). And in doing so, may you be returned to the good graces of the membership of this board. The Rooster has spoken...

If we might ask, how did you two meet????

Well??

Students angry over music piracy suits Wednesday, September 10, 2003 Posted: 1:41 PM EDT (1741 GMT) NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Anger, defiance and fear were the main reactions of college students on Tuesday after the music industry said it was suing 261 individuals for swapping illegal copies of songs over the Internet. The Recording Industry Association of America said on Monday it sued individuals across the United States for as much as $150,000 per song distributed online, targeting the biggest users, those with large libraries of pirated music. "If kids start getting arrested and dragged out of dorms and fined, other kids will definitely think twice before doing it," Eric Cioe, a biology student at New York University, said outside the university's library. Focusing on individuals But other students at NYU, located in the city where 70 of the 261 lawsuits were filed, were outraged. Many college students upload music and make it available to others on the Internet through file-sharing programs such as Kazaa and iMesh. The new lawsuits switch the record industry's focus from those file-sharing companies to the users of file-sharing programs instead. "This is insane, they can't just hack into our systems and track our activities. It's our property," said Lucy Chen, a sociology student who thinks downloading free music is fair because compact discs are overpriced. RIAA members include the "Big Six" record companies: Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group; Sony Corp.'s Sony Music; Bertelsmann AG's BMG; EMI Group Plc.; and Warner Music, part of CNN's parent company AOL Time Warner. The companies have promised to file thousands more lawsuits in the coming months against individuals who swap music. The industry believes minimizing file-sharing will stem the three-year decline in global recorded music sales. Some students settle Music companies and national trade bodies are pursuing individual lawsuits in Denmark, Germany, Italy and elsewhere. But the blanket region-wide lawsuit strategy, for now, will play out only in the United States where the music industry estimates roughly 90 percent of all file-sharers reside. "I'm very worried about my brother at Johns Hopkins University. He's very involved in file-sharing and would have to get a lawyer if he gets into trouble," said one pre-law student at NYU. Four university students who were sued earlier this year for operating campuswide music-sharing programs reached settlements under which they will pay between $12,000 and $17,500 to the recording industry. College students have access to "peer-to-peer" networks on university computer systems which enable them to swap music with thousands of people. "When we want to check our e-mail, we can barely connect because people are using up bandwidth to share music with 15,000 people. It's annoying," Cioe said. Erasing tracks Another student who refused to be identified said he uploads music and shares files, but is not concerned by the new lawsuits. "I consider myself technologically savvy, and I know how to erase my tracks," he said. RIAA also unveiled an amnesty program for individuals not currently under investigation which would remove the threat of prosecution from those who promise to refrain from such activity in the future and erase all copyrighted music they have downloaded. Still, law student Erica Olsen said downloading music is her best option. "Often, I just want one song from a CD, and I don't want to pay 22 bucks for it. I don't think any amount of legislation is going to force us to buy CDs."

I hate to say this, but actually I'm really probably not the best source of suggestions for this particular thread, given what 'ninety' has said that he likes best, as far as classical music goes. (For instance, probably all of my favorite 20th Century composers are the very ones that 'ninety' would like least.) Of course, if I think about it a bit, I'm sure some names and even some specific works might come to mind. I've heard both the Gorecki symphony, and some Part too -- and although I don't think they're at all that "bad" really, I do find myself much more strongly drawn to the mixed-meter (crazy time-changes) type stuff, especially with complex melodic and/or harmonic stuff going on right and left (often all at the same time). One name that does come to mind, rather strongly, is John Tavener. And possibly even Richard Nanes. And CD's with works by Nanes seem to be very easy to find in the used-CD bins (at least every store I go to that has even as little as one hundred used classical discs for sale), and they’re often available for $3 or $4 a pop, or even occasionally less than that. Edit: One other name I just thought of: Alan Hovhaness - who is an American composer of Armenian decent, and I understand he did some serious study of tradional Armenian music, which he was able to integrate into his own writing.

I'm much too lazy to take to time to adequately describe what a truly horrible idea this is. (But trust me... ...it is.)

Oh, and who's the lazy bastard who forgot to design a new cover for "Mother Ship"??? - apparently. And whoever it is, is probably still workin' on the damn thing now, trying to get it done in time for Oct. 7th.

I'd say a big "hi" to you, Conn500, and we missed you --- 'cept I'm really too lazy to bother. -_-

Still no cover available anywhere for "Mother Ship"??? None at overstock.com, and not at any of a small handful of other sites I checked (which don't even have "Passing Ships" or "Sonic Boom").

Well worth reading the AMG review, and thanks for the link. It probably captures the nature of this particular Miles box pretty well, I'm guessing (having not heard it yet). I'm still really looking forward to it, but I can understand how not everyone will be as much as others.

I posted to a couple threads earlier this morning, and got the same errors as before (see my most recent post in this thread). Presumably this is the same error people are getting with PM's. And, now that I think of it - I think I tried to send a PM last last night, and got the same error too. ========== Hell's bells, I got it again as I was posting this very post. I'm sure that it probably went though, but I dutifully hit the "back" button on my brouser, and am now posting again (probably resulting in a duplicate, except for these added comments, below the line of "===="). The error: Mail Error! SMTP protocol failure! Host: localhost Return Code: Return Msg: Invision Power Board Error: Could not open a socket to the SMTP server Check your SMTP settings from the admin control panel

I posted to a couple threads earlier this morning, and got the same errors as before (see my most recent post in this thread). Presumably this is the same error people are getting with PM's. And, now that I think of it - I think I tried to send a PM last last night, and got the same error too.

Come on, D. - it better be a good one!!

A friend of mine got the McLean set for the first time a couple years ago, and hadn't heard any of the material on it before. After his first time through it, he said "Tolliver practically steals the show!!". And this was coming from a guy who loves McLean (what he'd heard, anyway), and he was pretty unfamiliar with Tolliver.

Wow, pretty nice cover.

"Up" for more discussion, since there was a question elsewhere about this set. I would sum it up as being very "Charles Tolliver"-like, in some ways, and that much of it has some of that very early 70's "Strata East"-ish vibe to it (and totally in a GOOD way). Nearly all of it is pretty strong, and there isn't but one or maybe two tunes on the whole set that I wouldn't probably give at least 4-stars out of 5 (meaning 3 cd's of this material certainly doesn't seem bloated to me).

Well, I for one am really looking forward to this one, probably more than the Bitches Brew box (which I like quite a lot, but not as much as the IasW box).

Wow... CNN.com 12 year old settles music swap lawsuit Tuesday, September 9, 2003 Posted: 9:30 PM EDT (0130 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A day after being sued for illegally sharing music files through the Internet, a 12-year-old girl has settled with the Recording Industry Association of America. She's the first of 261 defendants to settle their lawsuits with the association. Brianna LaHara agreed Tuesday to pay $2,000, or about $2 per song she allegedly shared. "I am sorry for what I have done," LaHara said. "I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love." The suit claimed LaHara had been offering more than 1,000 songs on the Internet, using the Kazaa file-sharing service. The RIAA said it was pleased with the settlement. There are 260 cases still pending. "We're trying to send a strong message that you are not anonymous when you participate in peer-to-peer file-sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences," said Mitch Bainwol, RIAA chairman and chief executive officer. "And as this case illustrates, parents need to be aware of what their children are doing on their computers." Monday, RIAA filed lawsuits against 261 individual Internet music file-sharers and announced an amnesty program for most people who admit they illegally shared music files through the Internet. The amnesty would only offer protection for songs represented by the RIAA and not from publishers, musicians or others with rights to songs. Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA, said the civil lawsuits were filed against "major offenders" who made available an average of 1,000 copyright song files. Record companies blame illegal music file-trading for a 31-percent fall in compact disc sales since mid-2000. Sherman also announced the Clean Slate Program that grants amnesty to users who voluntarily identify themselves, erase downloaded music files and promise not to share music on the Internet. The RIAA said it will not sue users who sign and have notarized a Clean Slate Program affidavit. The offer of amnesty will not apply to about 1,600 people targeted by copyright subpoenas from the RIAA. The decision was made a few weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings mandated that Internet providers turn over the names of subscribers believed to be sharing music and movies illegally. Until now, the only music file-swapping lawsuits filed by the RIAA were against four college students accused of making thousands of songs available on campus networks. Those cases were settled for $12,500 to $17,000 each. Sherman said Monday that the RIAA had negotiated settlements in the range of $3,000 with a "handful" of Internet users who had learned from their Internet service providers that they were being targeted for lawsuits. The industry is also pursuing subpoenas at universities around the country seeking to identify music file traders.

I don't have a turntable even, but I wouldn't mind having a separate area for vinyl discussion, if that would be a logical thing to add to the list of forums. That said, I don't think having 100 different forums is such a good idea, but I could see "vinyl" as being a legit topic for discussion, such that it could merit it's only corner of the world around these parts. (In other words, if enough other people want it, then fine by me!! )

Congrats!!!!

Where's the cheapest place to get this one on-line??? I haven't gotten it yet, cuz I'm sure my local brick-n-mortar want's like $28 for it (ouch!!). I'm sure it's totally kickin' - never a doubt in my mind. I'll get it sometime, I'm sure - when I've got the scratch to do it.

About 10 or 15, maybe 20 at most.