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It was on her manager's label... the label folded quickly, I guess that's how it ended up in the Capitol family of labels, but I don't know the details. It's a hell of a great album, and it's got a whole lot of depth... and some abysses, too, I guess. Her voice has changed by that time, and is ripe with emotion.

Thanks, will have to check this out!

I usually think of Cecil Taylor when I see "CT"... I guess his album w/Coltrane and KD (no, not Klaus Doldinger, but his early albums are certainly off topic in this thread!) would qualify... though the flaw probably was in the conception already, and once the guys got together in the studio it was way too late to do anything good...

Where to start with Mance? I think I once heard one of his OJC CDs, but I don't recall which one it was... he's a player I haven't really explored yet. I guess it's too late to find the OJCs for good prices by now, alas.

I kind of like both Highnote discs mentioned previously... found both of them in sales bins, took me a while to get into them (they're so short, too - usually a good thing, but these two seem to be over by the time I get into them, usually). Anyway, MG, you ought to give this one a chance - it's a heavy albm, in my opinion: It was reissued in that short-lived Capitol Vocal Classics series (there should be a thread about those somewhere, too).

you're not that late, really... and I fully agree with your controversial statement

ok, then - from my live shows list: Blade, Brian - Fellowship 2000-06-21 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Myron Walden (as), Melvin Butler (ts,ss), Kurt Rosenwinkel (g), Jon Cowherd (p), Chris Thomas (b), Brian Blade (d) Blythe, Arthur 1984-04-06 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Arthur Blythe (as), John Hicks (p), Reggie Workman (b), Bobby Battle (d) Corea, Chick / Vitous, Miroslav / Haynes, Roy - Trio Music 1982-12-11 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Chick Corea (p,elp), Miroslav Vitous (b), Roy Haynes (d) Coryell, Larry 1984-04-26 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Larry Coryell (g), Albert Dailey (p), George Mraz (b), Billy Hart (d) Gordon, Dexter 1979-12-31 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Dexter Gordon (ts,ss), Kirk Lightsey (p), Rufus Reid (b), Eddie Gladden (d) Gordon, Dexter 1983-02-26 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Dexter Gordon (ts), Krik Lightsey (p), David Eubanks (b), Eddie Gladden (d) Gordon, Dexter 1983-02-27 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Dexter Gordon (ts), Kirk Lightsey (p), David Eubanks (b), Eddie Gladden (d) Griffin, Johnny 1978 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Johnny Griffin (ts), Ronnie Mathews (p), Ray Drummond (b), Kenny Washington (d) Griffin, Johnny 2000-05 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Johnny Griffin (ts), Michael Weiss (p), poss. John Webber (b), poss. Kenny Washington (d) Harris, Barry 2008-07-11 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Barry Harris (p), Chuck Israels (b), Leroy Williams (d) Howard, Noah 1972-08 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Noah Howard (as), Frank Lowe (ts), Richard Dunbar (frh), Robert Bruno (p), Earl Freeman (b), Art Lewis (d,perc), Mustapha Rahim (perc) Jones, Elvin 1980-11-18 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Woody Shaw (t), Andrew White (ts), Ari Brown (ts), unknown (g), Andy McCloud (b), Elvin Jones (d) Jones, Elvin - Jazz Machine 1982-04-10 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Pat LaBarbera (ts,ss), Chick Corea (p), Jean-Paul Bourelly (g), Stanley Clarke (b), Elvin Jones (d) Jones, Elvin - Jazz Machine 1982-04-09 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Pat LaBarbera (ts,ss), Jean-Paul Bourelly (g), Stanley Clarke (b), Elvin Jones (d) Kirk, Roland Rahsaan - Vibration Society 1973-05-03 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Rahsaan Roland Kirk (fl,nose fl,ts,cl,mazn,stritch,misc instr), Hilton Ruiz (p), Bob Cunningham (b), prob. Robert Shy (d), prob. Joe Habao Texidor (perc), unknown (t) Kirk, Roland Rahsaan - Vibration Society 1973-12-31 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Rahsaan Roland Kirk (reeds), Hilton Ruiz (p), Henry "Pete" Pearson (b), John Goldsmith (d), Kenny Rogers (bari) Kirk, Roland Rahsaan - Vibration Society 1974-04-04 (came as 1974-04-14) New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Rahsaan Roland Kirk (reeds), Hilton Ruiz (p), Henry "Pete" Pearson (b), John Goldsmith (d), Kenny Rogers (bari) Kirk, Roland Rahsaan - Vibration Society 1975-01-03 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Rahsaan Roland Kirk (reeds), Hilton Ruiz (p), Henry "Pete" Pearson (b), John Goldsmith (d), Joe Texidor (perc), unknown (t) Konitz, Lee 2009-04-03 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Lee Konitz (as), Dan Tepfer (p), Jeremy Stratton (b), George Schuller (d) Marsh, Warne 1983-07-26 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Warne Marsh (ts), Hank Jones (p), George Mraz (b), Bobby Durham (d) Marsh, Warne 1983-10-26 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Warne Marsh (ts), Hank Jones (p), George Mraz (b), Tim Horner (d) Marsh, Warne / Mosca, Sal - Quartet 1980-06-10 - 1980-06-15 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Warne Marsh (ts), Sal Mosca (p), Earl Sauls (b), Skip Scott (d) Marsh, Warne / Mosca, Sal - Quartet 1980-06-12 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Warne Marsh (ts), Sal Mosca (p), Earl Sauls (b), Skip Scott (d) Mingus, Charles - Big Band 1972-04-17 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Lonnie Hillyer (t), Eddie Preston (t), Richard Williams (t), Eddie Bert (tb), Howard Johnson (tuba), Charles McPherson (as), Lee Konitz (as), Richie Perry (as), Johnny Griffin (ts), Shafi Hadi (ts), Paul Jeffrey (bari), John Foster (p), Sam Herman (g), Charles Mingus (b,arr,cond), Roy Brooks (d), on #7-8 add Honey Gordon (voc); prob. other unknown musicians present Monk, Thelonious 1972- New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Paul Jeffrey (ts), Thelonious Monk (p), (b), (d) (sorry, I don't have the info at hand, but this one's fairly common...) Mulligan, Gerry - Concert Jazz Band 1960-12-07 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Nick Travis, Clark Terry, Don Ferrara (t), Bob Brookmeyer (vtb), Willie Dennis (tb), Alan Raph (btb), Gene Quill (as), Bob Donovan (as), Jim Reider (ts), Gene Allen (bari,bcl,cl), Gerry Mulligan (bari,p), Bill Crow (b), Mel Lewis (d) Mulligan, Gerry - Concert Jazz Band 1960-12-08 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Nick Travis, Clark Terry, Don Ferrara (t), Bob Brookmeyer (vtb), Willie Dennis (tb), Alan Raph (btb), Gene Quill (as), Bob Donovan (as), Jim Reider (ts), Gene Allen (bari,bcl,cl), Gerry Mulligan (bari,p), Bill Crow (b), Mel Lewis (d) Mulligan, Gerry - Concert Jazz Band 1960-12-10 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Nick Travis, Clark Terry, Don Ferrara (t), Bob Brookmeyer (vtb), Willie Dennis (tb), Alan Raph (btb), Gene Quill (as), Bob Donovan (as), Jim Reider (ts), Gene Allen (bari,bcl,cl), Gerry Mulligan (bari,p), Bill Crow (b), Mel Lewis (d) Murray, David 1993-01-28 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard David Murray (ts), Don Pullen (org), Bill White (g), Andrew Cyrille (d) Pullen, Don / Adams, George - Quartet 1983-08-19 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard George Adams (ts,fl), Don Pullen (p), Cameron Brown (b), Dannie Richmond (d) Rollins, Sonny 1973-06-29 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Sonny Rollins (ts,ss), Walter Davis Jr. (p), Masuo (g), Bob Cranshaw (b), David Lee (d) Rollins, Sonny 1972-03-14 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Sonny Rollins (ts), Albert Dailey (p), Larry Ridley (b), David Lee (d) Shaw, Woody 1980-11 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Woody Shaw (t), Steve Turre (tb), Larry Willis (p), Stafford James (b), Victor Lewis (d) Shorter, Wayne 1965-08-01 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Wayne Shorter (ts), Herbie Hancock (p), Gary Peacock (b), Tony Williams (d) Taylor, Cecil / Oxley, Tony 2008-07-15 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Cecil Taylor (p), Tony Oxley (d) Taylor, Cecil / Oxley, Tony 2008-07-19 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Cecil Taylor (p), Tony Oxley (d) Waldron, Mal 1984-12-29 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Woody Shaw (t), Charlie Rouse (ts), Mal Waldron (p), Reggie Workman (b), Ed Blackwell (d) Waldron, Mal 1982-12-30 New York City (USA), Village Vanguard Benny Bailey (t), Charlie Rouse (ts), Mal Waldron (p), Reggie Workman (b), Ed Blackwell (d)

no, that's the only Freedom Sounds/Henderson disc I have... fished it out of some sales bin and haven't regretted that... Wasn't aware of the other one, i guess it's this one: Soul Sound System?

I love the Basie/Bond one! I kind of have to agree with MG about the Golson on Arkadia, but I like the cheesy one with the commercials music and all (on one title Golson even plays a varitone, I think). It's good fun to my ears!

The Webster part is with Junior Mance, Bob Cranshaw and Mickey Roker, siy tunes, recorded 1964, the usual programme of blues, ballads and standards. The CD is from 1991, I haven't checked if it's still in print, but I found a copy two years ago, I think.

pretty good disc, in my opinion - nothing earth shaking of course, but I love late Webster and enjoy almost everything by Ammons I've heard (I have most of his OJCs and Fantasy discs, as well as the dreaded Quadromania box, which btw is far from complete... there was more stuff done for labels that aren't covered, or some sessions aren't complete and some entirely missing, I don't quite remember, but I once compared it to a discography).

Mike is much better at describing the merits of "Chile Con Soul", of course! But I'm a wee bit proud that I felt that it was more than just a gimmick easy listening thing... because easy it is... smooth wasn't a four-letter word in... Sangrey's time? Or was that even before? The funny thing is, reading about their disco hats - that's the first I heard of them, a sleazy bit of jazz funk, no idea what the disc was called, but a girl at my highschool (hellyeah, I had a crush on her!) lent me a pile of funk and rare groove discs once (including some really cool stuff, such as Carol Kaye) and among them was one by The Crusaders. So my first reaction upon hearing about a Mosaic set was astonishment... but then curiosity got the better of me and I checked out the live albums a year or so ago (I remained sceptical for quite a while) and I was very pleasantly surprised to hear how good this stuff is! Here's another related disc that is pretty nice:

And it's part of Universal's "Originals" series by now - see my post above... I wasn't aware that the "Jazz" part of their name was still intact by that time!

Thanks MG - too bad! Btw, this is off topic here, but at least "Pass the Plate" from the later period when they called themselves The Crusaders, is very much worth hearing, too! I also have the first and second crusade albums, as well as the Socks/Shoes ones - they have all been reissued in Universal's "Originals" series in the past years. I don't have "Images", just in case. I guess by that point, I'm no longer interested that much...

I'm interested in the answer(s) as well! Got the five you pictured above (found the last one in a local EMI sale I think, but it took a while to turn up). The Chile I bought cheaply at Mediamarkt in Budapest, of all places... It's better than I'd expected (I was expecting some "stoopid music" but it's way more than that!)

Here's the sanitized version of a little review I sent to a friend immediately after the concert... I'm still living on it! ------------ Sort of electro brasil bossa trip hop or some such, with CéU (or Céu or céu or however) something between a goddess and a crazy chick, dancing around, shaking her booty... and a nice band: good bassist with an old (I think) fender bass and great "felt"-bass sound, fine crappy drummer doing weird fills, then the dj guy (doing some scratching, some sounds, and having the studio albums on the turntable to provide some background vocals where needed - Céu overdubbed those for the albums), and a great guy playing keys (an old synthesizer with great fender, organ and wurli sounds... no idea what it was exactly, I was on the other end of the stage), guitar, and accordion. One of the highlights was their take of "It Takes Two to Tango" - I fell in love with that songs when I first heard Lester Young do his own version (with additional slippery lyrics) on an outtake/rehearsal from the Pres Plays with Peterson/Collates date on Verve. Holy, holy, I'm quite enthusiastic although I can see that the music of Céu can easily be dismissed as being just some young ones toying around with grown-up stuff that they don't really understand... but who cares, it's fun, it grooves like mad, and it sounds great, lots of good vibes and stuff... ------------ and in the meantime I have played her second album about seven times or so, and I think it's even better than the first (although it's very similar in overall "design")

I enjoy this disc a lot! Might have been my first Herman disc...

Ivory Hunters was released again this year by Lonehill, although I haven't heard it. Seems like a good alternative to Blue Note's $17-SRP burned disc, assuming the sound isn't notably inferior. Ah well, that's the kind of Lonehill release I really hate... but if there's no real alternative AND I find a cheap copy, I'll grab it, then.

not to be too grumpy, but a search would have led to many similar discussions, most notably here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14098 I'm a huge Mingus fan, so I want it all, but depending if you enjoy freer stuff or not, my favorites would include: Blues & Roots (and Pithecantropus Erectus, The Clown, Tonight at Noon) East Coasting Tijuana Moods (make sure you get the Bluebird First Editions 2CD edition!) Mingus in Wonderland Mingus Ah Um (Dynasty is fine, too!) Mingus Presents Mingus (though there's good stuff on all the other Candid discs as well, and Mingus At Antibes is cool, too!) and if you like freer stuff, also something from 1964 (Cornell, the two Live In Europe discs on Enja, one of the Paris concerts...) also Black Saint and the Sinner Lady and as mentioned above, the piano solo album is marvellous as well

If anyone happens to have a spare Evans shrapnell box to sell, PM me.. mine's looking like a dud from around Verdun times by now... dug up last year or so... but alas I'm not selling it...

Ha, good to hear I'm not alone there... I played most of the Art Pepper boxes, all of Evans' Riverside, most of Monk's Riverside (had much of it before anyway), but Evans' Fantasy box is one I still need to dig into... I put on some of it as background music now and then, but never sat down and listened... same for all the final recordings - great, great music, all of it played now and then, but never really sat down and listened attentively. Btw, I think to help those who have no Evans boxes, this would be my preferences: Riverside (+ K2 Village Vanguard 3CD set) Verve (it's huge, the packaging is silly, but the music... never ends!) Secret Sessions (it's in not that great sound mostly, but showcases several versions of working trios, including some not documented or not documented thoroughly elsewhere... and some more with Philly JJ!) then I'd go for one of the final 1980 boxes, maybe the Warner one first? and then I guess the Fantasy and the remaining 1980 boxes (the two on Fantasy) not to forget the ones not in any box: - Tenderly (a 1957 rehearsal with Don Elliott, on Fantasy) - the Columbia discs (two of them, plus the stuff on those third stream sessions, which makes a third) - "Undercurrent", the UA duo with Jim Hall (on Blue Note CD) - the album with Bob Brookmeyer (UA/BN as well - never managed to find that one alas!) - the Elektra/Warner Paris albums - the four final albums on Warner (various editions, the fine trio album is around with bonus tracks in case you care) I guess that about wraps up the essentials Fantasy has some more live shows out, including a trio with Michael Moore on bass (yes, the film-maker... or is it the sax player? Seriously, Moore's a fine bass player, I think he was with Brubeck for a while... though )

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CéU tonight - looking forward a lot, bought her new disc yesterday!

Wonderful foto, thanks for sharing it here, Tom!

I know Lisette Model and how to spell the name DeCarava, but I've never heard of him... very nice photos there, would certainly enjoy seing more!