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I have a terrific live broadcast of her band, very, very good music, warm, lyrical, lots of beauty and soul in it... Trygve Seim on saxes is great, and Jon Christensen is a masterful drummer (but that's no news I hope). I am not sure - once again - if the coolish ECM production sound is good for this music, as it seems to warm to me... I should check this out, and that other one, "The Source", too (by Trygve Seim, see more info here: http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/1900/1966.php)

you can read his "maybe you're right" reply that way, too...

well, aric called Bley "whoever" above, so I guess that's not a reason to convince him of anything!

traditor, the latinist in me, would translate as "he who spreaded traditions" or something, btw. and labelling Bethlehem as a West Coast label is a rather strange idea...

Mingus & Dexter & Teddy Edwards were what? Not your typical west coast stuff, no? And Roach-Brown started out west, too... Free Fall may be Giuffre's greatest record - why would you expect him to do west coast stuff? Was he even from the West Coast? What he did was some kind of folksy version of what Horace Silver did in an urbane way, I think... country funk, whatever - it's warm, swinging music that often had a rootsy feeling (talking of his Atlantic stuff now), but even on his first two Capitols he did things that may be closer to NYC third stream experiments than to West Coast, or so it seems to me. Anyway, I simply don't care if Giuffre is North, South, East or West, or a traitor or traditor or anything - he is a great musician (sadly unable to play for years by now due to health issues, as far as I know).

Funniest national anthem ever must be the Italian, especially when performed by a brass band running around on a square, while playing it... (so witnessed by yours truly in the beautiful city of Como) in other countries, these soldiers would have been arrested for making fun of the national anthem, but in Italy they were ordered to behave like that...

It came out as part of this twofer: Julian Priester & Walter Benton - Out Of This World (Jazzland - Milestone MCD-47087-2)

Interesting idea for a thread! I was most certainly influenced by my parents' musical tastes in mostly a positive way - no need to rebel against their tastes, although my embrace of jazz quickly included areas they were unwilling to cope with - my father hates organ, though he has an original LP of Jimmy Smith's "The Cat", he also thought "Free for All" - the Blakey one - was "free jazz"... but at least he did own it, and give me a first chance to hear what I still consider the most exciting Blakey album. The record collection of my parents was pretty diverse - lots of classical (mostly from my mother), lots of pop/rock/folk stuff (never any hard rock, just lots of Beatles and Dylan etc - Dylan, thanks to my dad, still is one of my loves today, I started buying his CDs at age of 13 or so, which was just about when the CD came into stores, in the early 80s). They also had some indian classical and other "ethno" or "world" stuff, but that's an area I am only slowly getting started in. Oh, and my mother loved "Amandla" from Miles... so I got into MD backwards, more or less. "We Want Miles" was one of the first CDs I had, probably even before "Kind of Blue" - I had gotten that from the library at school, but back then I muchly preferred the other Miles one they had, "Workin'". At the school library I also got into "Ascension" for the first time, and playing that aloud at home was something that made my parents... well, not exactly scream, but politely ask me to turn it down a bit and close my door... Anyway, I guess I took a lot of hints from them (another one would be one of those early, maybe the first?, Sly & the Family Stone LPs my father had), but went places from there, getting into music much deeper than they ever did. The one area where they, mainly my father, are into deeper than I am is indian classical - they attend concerts whenever they can (I have seen Hariprasad Chaurasia, Zakir Hussain and others with them, on the few occasions I went along), and my father buys 10 or 15 new CDs a year on his frequent trips (business/NGO) to India. (edited for some typos - I guess there are more...)

Very sad news Thank you for sharing your memories, Valerie!

Reform Judaism? Royal Jordanian Airlines? Or R.J. Gator's Florida Sea Grill & Bar (founded 1986, in case)? Or the electric plug? Who/whatever you're talking about, let me add best wishes, too!

Live broadcast of Experience have been very sloppy, in my opinion... that's alas the only WSQ I've heard so far, but I'll take some leads from here for the day I feel like getting more.

Not familiar with the WSQ, but a tiny bit with Hemphill, and this one's a classic: Same goes for "Dogon A.D." (Tim Berne had it for download on his site some time ago), and "Flat Out Jump Suite" (Black Saint) is another very good one. Lake I'm not sure - found him rather disappointing with Trio 3 (Workman was great, though!).

Very sad news. Her Mosaic was one of the biggest surprises - not that I expected it to be less than good, but it turned out to be great, and full of terrific performances, an instant love-affair! Thank you for all the music, Ms. O'Day.

That Desmond box Claude linked above has the Desmond/Hall albums (incl. the one with strings) plus the Desmond/Mulligan, yes? I have the US version (5CD) of the Desmond RCA (omitting the album with Mulligan) and of the Rollins (6CD). I assume the Bluebird single discs would sound better? I did get the Bluebird for the Desmond/Mulligan, since it has quite a bit of additional music that is not part of the French RCA Gold reissue. Usually these Bluebirds are still a bitch to find over here, alas - there'd be quite a few I would like to get. For instance, it seems the US Bluebird of Tijuana Moods is much better, and in fact complete, whereas the RCA Gold one is kind of a hack job, but only that one's distributed here...

I think our western european post-enlightenment and even moreso post shoah and WWII negative or precautious opinion on national symbols and patriot feelings may be something not easily understood in other parts of the world, probably not even in the US, for large parts of it... just thinking aloud, correct me if I'm wrong, please. The Swiss national anthem is pretty peculiar, btw. We had an old one that used I think the same melody as the (old? current?) UK one (or is that the english? Do they have four or one?), but it was replaced by some pretty weird old song.

Ditto. ... make that three ... same here!

brothers, uhm sisters in song:

Same here. Most anthems soun dour and pompous. Le Marseillase sounds very uplifting. Yep. Check out the version on this: I prefer Cirribiribin... no national anthems for me, pulleaze! This is the weirdest thread ever since this board got started, methinks... for the cuteness factor, maybe that little tune them hippies did sing? another good one: cute, huh? yuck! oh, and I have my own national anthem, of course, the "King Ubu Stomp"

I can understand that, being myself quite fond of good looking packaging, and considering that mp3 quality varry depending on the source store. What I find interesting in Jan Ström's move is this notion of download-only titles, which allow him to release music that would not have reached the public for lack of potential CD sales. If only for this, i guess it's something to praise. And except for the medium, the music is mastered like regular releases, so if music stores do their stuff correctly, the result for the listener is quite fine. Yeah, ok, but why can't he just put the files up on his site, you send 5 or 7 $ via paypal and get access to downloadable 320 kbps MP3s? Why always through some stores, none of which seem to really have good offerings for non US-citizens, and with none of which I want to register, as I'd only want to get that Ayler thing?

Hi, first post around here. The Futterman is really enjoyable, as are the Simmons and Gjerstad (my favorite of the three so far). The Steve Swell is right up my alley, with Ascension-like bits and pieces and incredible energy. For the prices, it's true they varry from store to store, but as all releases will eventually be available at both iTunes and eMusic, it's just a question of time to get these at the best quality/price ratio. I couldn't help but notice the comment about cover art, but I find Ayler's position on this quite unusual and noticeable. They do offer cover, tray and label artwork on their website, in the form of PDF files. This is rare enough to be acknowledged. My 2 cents. welcome here! At the moment I do have a job where I can occasionally print something in colour and I'm happy with those printouts, but still, it's not quite the same. I do not enjoy the whole development from quality to MP3 format, in general, but I do see the new distribution possibilities of the web. Anyway, I have not embraced it yet and I'll keep being at least reserved for some more time, I'm afraid...

just for the record, I have plenty of Mosaics I hardly ever post in that thread this list is based on... not sure what my favourites are, but the Hill may be among them. I missed a lot of the older sets (hey, I was born merely 2 years before Mosaic was founded, so...), and since many of those have been reissued by other labels (mostly BN, Monk, Bud, Nichols, Green/Clark etc., but also some others, like the Desmond/Hall RCA, the Mingus CBS on Sony/Legacy), many of these older boxes are perceived by us younger people as BN (or whatever) boxes. Oh, the Tina Brooks is one of the old sets I got, and that one was great to have, since by the time I got it the Conn of "True Blue" was long gone, and the only one easily available was "Back to the Tracks". So it served me as a great introduction to Tina (I still don't have "True Blue" and last unreleased album in their CD incarnations). Others, beside the Hill, I enjoy a lot, are Thad Jones, Jones-Lewis, J.J., TKM, Jimmy Giuffre, O'Day, the VeeJays, the Ventura/Phillips, the Basie live (missed the studio when it was available). Hard to pick any absolute favourites at this time. THe Weston is my favourite select, but I only have four (Amy, Brookmeyer and Bennie Green).

Just finally ordered two copies of this one from CDU (oh my, I hope I used the correct big-o link! not sure anymore, but it's too late now) for me and for a friend as an x-mas gift. Looking forward to throw the vinyl rip CDRs in the garbage! This is such a great recording, most certainly one of Mingus' very best ones!

Long Goodbye is great, Allen - I wanted to post in here yesterday but forgot the title of the film. Elliott Gould is one of the weirdest private eyes in the history of cinema. I don't care wether he's over- or underrated. He was one of the best in modern crappy commercial Hollywood, and that's an achievement however way you look at it. Oh, and "M.A.S.H." is pretty feghing hilarious, even in german synchronization and on tv. r.i.p.

That one was a printing error, Mr. Uehlinger told me. I got one from him when we interviewed him, gave away the blue one to a friend, but in the end I'll want to get the hatOLOGY reissue, as it seems it sounds quite a bit better... There'd be tons of different hat covers, but the onld ones are very hard to find on the net. Virtually any album reissued after ca. 1993 or 1994 (when they started the current design, musicians, later citiscapes b/w photos w/orang text) has had another cover before. There are a few post 1993 albums that have been reissued in cardboard hatOLOGY versions using the same covers again (for instance Myra Melford's quintet album with Dave Douglas).