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Its an Impulse release, so no public domain stuff I guess.

Yup... I think there’s quite a lot more but why bring it out all at once if you can milk that cow for decades... But hey, I will definitely get this anyway.

so what’s this?

Well I don't thing it's exclusively a 'black musicians' thing, or how white people want to see black artist. People admire the sex, drugs and rock & roll thing too in the ' white rock scene. God I hope we can ever stop talking about 'races'. I can remember quite a lot people talking with much adoration about the enormous drug use by artists like Jim Morrison or Ozzy Osbourne. In the sense that: wow those guys lived a life.... Isn't it the same reason why people love mobsters and big criminals? Its a world unknown to them, tempting but way too scary. I don't know and can't say I actually care. About rap or hip-hop: there is more than gangsta rap for God's sake. Don't like Shrdlu's comment on rap. Don' t know why people always feel the need to bash genres they don't like or listen too. There is quite a lot of good hip-hop made. And a good rapper.... man that is an art form itself. It's not really my favorite genre either but I hear what they're doing. Part from that: I do think it is a particular 'class' thing to expect from people growing up in a harsh environment to sing about butterflies and flowers or to behave like a school choir boy. Music is a product of its environment most of the time.

Well there used to be a jazz specialty shop in Amsterdam that went bankrupt about 10 years ago. By far your best option is: https://concerto.amsterdam/en/ Quite a big shop on the Utrechtsestraat (near Rembrandtplein) with also a large 'used and second hand' section. Lots of vinyl too these days. I would definitely skip the 'Fame' shop that is now in the Media Markt these days. It used to be the largest record store in NL but it has been moved a couple of times. It is still big but they do not have a lot jazz, and only new items which means these days they mostly sell the 50 albums on 1 cd crap from NOT NOW Jazz and those kind of labels. The Velvetmusic store is fine if you are not in to jazz: they don't really have special stuff unfortunately in the jazz genre. I must say that I do not have a lot of experience with other stores. Perhaps other board members?

Wow this is a my first I attend and difficult it is. To be honest: I do not recognize any of the musicians... I like number 2. Passionate saxophone player. Sounds like someone with some southern feel in her playing like Archie Shepp. I leave the rest up to the rest.

I feel the same way. I just can’t believe people are prepared to pay 100/200 or even more dollars to obtain an original pressing or a specific reissue. Especially not when a normal prices reissue is readily available. The highest I ever paid for a record was a 100 bucks, and the only reason I did because there were no alternatives and it is one of my very favorite records. But other than that... for me it’s still music first, than audio quality, than packaging and than probably what edition... Same for me with audiophiles. I can hear a clear difference between bad and good sound and I have a personal taste. Maybe I just can’t hear it well, maybe it’s my ears , but come on: people paying 100 dollars for a so called 24k gold disc and other crap like that... it just makes me laugh.

Yes I order a lot through Discogs. Most time a seller just got one item I want. I think probably 10/20% of the money I have spent on music actually went to shipping costs... 😒

I don’t think shipping get much cheaper than that... prices are ridiculous. I know that shipping to the US from the Netherlands with DHL costs about 18 euros...

Probably a ‘Kapsalon’: a Dutch/Turkish specialty. Contains dönerkebab, Fries, cheese, salad and a whole lot of sauce. A normal portion contains about 1500 kcal which is about the complete amount a woman need for the whole day. But Monk was a big guy wasn’t he? I have always wondered if the Kapsalon would be introduced in the States, would there be a Kapsalon Large, Kapsalon XL and a Kapsalon supersize that contains around the 5000 kcal or something like that.... you’d been having enough for the week.

Speaking of working duo’s: this would definitely be one. There are few musicians capable of listening to other musicians like Steve Lacy. His sound would perfectly fit. And of course as mentioned: the Monk repertoire is nothing new to the man

what about mr Davis?

I can feel you on this I used to buy everything I saw, made quite a few bad choices also. That made me sell quite a lot of stuff. I am now mainly focused on stuff I really want to have, which includes collectors stuff too: like some rare stuff by Billy Harper, Mal Waldron and Abdullah Ibrahim. That stuff is expansive so in stead of buying 15 cds/records a month I buy about 2 or 3 now. That makes my collection probably the smallest around here with only 957 cd’s and LP’s combined. on the other hand: I am still young....

Okay thanks! Ill send Tom a Pm somewhere around the 20th of August.

Oh thats gonna be no problem at all. Maybe I can be the one for september? I keep myself recommended.

I am willing to do this also. So keep me in mind for the next time! I am curious if this 28 year old can present a list that can still surprise all the die hard jazz fanatics here or that it will be last time I may create one because the first one guesses everything right. 😂

This is awesome stuff!

Thanks again guys for all the recommendations! To be honest: I don’t even know some of the artists mentioned well I am young and have to learn Of course haha! The link to all those autobiographies was very useful, thanks. My selection for the two weeks will be: Art Pepper’s, Miles Davis’, Hampton Hawes’ and Billie Holiday’s. And the book As Serious as Your Life. All the other ones mentioned are on my newly created wantlist. Bud Powells and Chet Bakers up front

Than you should be twice as glad with that sell now you know this

Mostly postswing with a few exceptions. So pretty much from bebop to freejazz. Thanks for all the tips up till now. Peppers Straight Life crosses my mind too

Holidays are coming, and with my 7 months old son, I am pretty sure that reading will be my number one activity. I love to read about jazz and have already read 2 books on Coltrane and Mingus’ biography. Any recommendations to put on on my e-reader? What biographies are essential and of course general books on jazz are also welcome tough they have to be very good of course 😊 thanks in advance!

Quite a long time ago you asked this Jim, but I happen to hit this topic just now. I have got a few quotes for you: She sounds like a drunk guy (on Nina Simone) Off key and a horrible timing (on Anita O’Day) She really doesn’t do a thing to me (on Billie Holiday) Overrated and she can’t sing (on Sarah Vaughan) The worst jazz singer: she can’t hold one note (on Astrid Gilberto) The only one she could give a break was Ella. Rita Reys was a horrible, overly arrogant women. And she wasn’t all that great herself too. Small minded, the type of person that does not fit into free art forms like jazz.

Indeed. And I think also Explorations to the Mth Degree with Max Roach. Nice stuff!

And finally a pure Lp. Never liked those impure ones... 🤔

anyone seen this beautiful doc? Nice interviews with Reggie Workman, Andrew Cyrille, Steve Lacy, Max Roach and Jeanne Lee. And Mal himself... what a sweet guy. Such a humble person.