Harold_Z

...or to put it another way - someone's appreciation of ANY type of music is HIGHLY subjective. About as subjective as subjective can be. That's for listening. As far as PLAYING...you better have your credentials to play a specific genre with people who are expert in that genre, or you won't be playing with them twice.

How come every post here is dated "Today" ? Twilight zone.

SUCKS ! That's the negative with vinyl. I've done it from time to time. No way around it.

You forgot the melted cheese.

I'm a little over 100 pages into this: I picked it up on the recommendation of a friend. I'm impressed. It's humorous, serious, Fantastic, historical, sci-fyish and many more things. Borges is so good that I felt he deserved a thread of his own rather than a mention in the reading lately thread. I'm reading a translation - I can only imagine that it is even better in Spanish, the language in which it was written. It's a keeper. I can see myself returning to this frequently - something I rarely do. I'll be picking up Selected non-fiction next.

Thanks Jim - I just scored. I have the bluesway lps but I can't resist the au naturel aspect of this.

True. And in the shitty state of this business I consider myself fortunate to have a decent lounge gig on the weekends where I can play a variety of music with a few other good musicians. I feel like the last of the mohicans. The bread is as discussed above and I keep my chops in a state of almost decent. I prefer that to a rehearsed club date band where the bread would be better, but where I would most likely get fired after a few gigs for being a dissident.

Yeah..but about the too many people playing professionally...how do you stop that? I know bandleaders that hire guys that shouldn't be playing - how are civiilians going to weed them out? They're not going to leave voluntarily. To say nothing of bandleaders that are bandleaders because nobody would hire them.

Maybe we should not expect serious music to be made any more in areas which are so expensive. Stockholm is very small in comparsion, but in the suburbs there are more and more places with live music popping up. I agree. I have had so many conversations over the past couple of years with musicians aspiring to move to Brooklyn, blah blah blah. I say "Grow your own roots! Stop trying to climb somebody else's tree!" Richmond, VA is a great example of how a local scene can flourish. “The first time (Steven Bernstein) heard our charts he said it would be impossible to put together a group in New York who could play them,” White says. “There are an amazing group of musicians in Richmond; just because we are a small city doesn’t mean we’re the B-team.” Source OK...but what are you guys saying? I'm not a person who believes that all the good musicians are only around the big cities. I know the world is full of good players who never wanted to leave their chosen areas. But is your point that the cost of living is less away from places like NYC, so therefore the musicians can work for less money? If so, I don't see how that helps matters. I guess I'm thinking that a venue has a much better chance of survival if it doesn't have to pay NYC rents. Paying $100 to a musician in Charlottesville, VA goes a lot further than paying a musician $100 in Williamsburg, NY. Not work for less, but live for less. Agreed, but $100, even six nights a week only comes to $30,000 a year. Rough to get by on anywhere in the US. So the end result is day gigs for musicians - one way or another. And guys can be good musicians and have a day gig. I do it and I still play decently - but not as well as when I worked music full time. Jim S. makes a good point about having to hustle more and (I paraphrase) get past jazz gigs being just a jam session. That's where entertainment and showmanship in one guise or another comes in, but we still need venues and that loss is to the working musician more profound that cds hitting the wall.

Maybe we should not expect serious music to be made any more in areas which are so expensive. Stockholm is very small in comparsion, but in the suburbs there are more and more places with live music popping up. I agree. I have had so many conversations over the past couple of years with musicians aspiring to move to Brooklyn, blah blah blah. I say "Grow your own roots! Stop trying to climb somebody else's tree!" Richmond, VA is a great example of how a local scene can flourish. “The first time (Steven Bernstein) heard our charts he said it would be impossible to put together a group in New York who could play them,” White says. “There are an amazing group of musicians in Richmond; just because we are a small city doesn’t mean we’re the B-team.” Source OK...but what are you guys saying? I'm not a person who believes that all the good musicians are only around the big cities. I know the world is full of good players who never wanted to leave their chosen areas. But is your point that the cost of living is less away from places like NYC, so therefore the musicians can work for less money? If so, I don't see how that helps matters.

I wish this was the case, but at his point (and I live in the NYC metropolitan area) venues that feature live music are at an all time low. there are some- not nearly enough- and the pay is 30 years out of date. I don't see any dynamic coming that will cause bar owners to shell out more bucks, and the truth of the matter is, they aren't doing that well either.

Harrell. Rhyme it with Carol. That's the way I've always heard his name pronounced.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !! Best wishes for many more healthy and happy to come.

For my money Two Steps From The Blues is Bobby Blue Bland's best record. I've got almost all my Bobby Bland on the original Duke vinyl. One day not too long I heard Lovelights on the fm. I assume it was a cd reissue. It wasn't the original mix. I don't recall now exactly what, but I think it had something to do with the piano being more audible than on the original - to the detriment of the guitar parts. Which on that particular recording SHOULD NOT be messed with.

I heard one track off this - He Keeps You. Sounds great! Very hip record. Early 70s funk with a touch of Curtis Mayfield among the influences. Very apt for a Chicago record. I think I'll score while the scoring is good.

The lp I have is on Kent. It has a white cover with Tina wearing a pinkish red dress and Ike standing directly behind her holding a strat that matches her dress. The title is "Ike and Tina Turner Revue Live" is large print. Smaller print "Recorded live at Club Imperial, and Harlem Club St Louis, Missouri." United, if I recall correctly, sometimes reissued Kent things with pretty much the same packaging. I think there was some BB King and Elmore James for example that were like that. The Kent is definitely early or early mid 60s, Again - if memory serves I bought it around '64. By the late 60s, Ike and Tina were doing a different repertoire. For those of you not as old as us old farts - these records were usually found in drugstores, supermarkets, and five and tens for $1.98. Or less. That's Kent, Crown, United, etc.

Thanks John

It's a GREAT record. Hard to pick one tune off of there - the whole album is consistently good. Quintessential Grant and Larry for sure. I have it on cd now (in the Larry Mosaic), but I was looking for a copy in the late 70s and early 80s and was having no luck. I was familiar with the recording -a friend of mine had it - and I just had to get a copy. I was on the road in Scranton Pa in 1984 and walked into a second hand shop one afternoon when I was just killing time. Second hand books, clothing, vinyl. There it was! In great shape and for.......A QUARTER! Needless to say, I scooped it right up.

Allen, here's the playlist from the cd I was looking at. It includes everything on the old kent lp. For some reason I can't get the link from amazon to post here. 1. Please, Please, Please 2. If I Can't Be the First 3. Feelin' Good - 4. Love of My Man - Venetta Fields, 5. Think - Bobby John, 6. Drown in My Own Tears - 7. I Love the Way You Love - Robbie Montgomery 8. For Your Precious Love - Vernon Guy, 9. All in My Mind 10. Am I a Fool in Love 11. All I Could Do Was Cry/Please, Please, Please 12. My Man He's a Loving Man 13. I Know You Don't Love Me No More 14. It's Gonna Work Out Fine 15. Way You Love Me 16. I Can't Stop Lovin' You 17. You Should Have Treated Me Right edit to add: One tune from the lp might be missing, but they are kinda loose with the titles so it may not be. That is the last tune on the lp "I can't believe what You Say." Then some of the extra material looks like it might be duplicated from the first Warner lp.

rethas 'yeah' is a studio 'live' album. wonder if the original tapes are messed up, too? "Yeah" is a good album. Kenny Burrell is on it and it swings pretty nicely. Generally I think the Columbia stuff is underrated. I find myself liking the Columbia's more and more. I have the Ike and Tina "Live" lp Allen mentions. It's a killer. She kicks it off with Please Please Please and goes on from there. There were three early "live" Ike and Tina lps that I really dug. This one, one on Warner Bros and another on Loma (which I think is a Warner's subsidiary). All three of them kick butt. I've been looking for an entry point for Ike and Tina. Are any of their albums on CD? What should one pick up first? This has the Warner Bros and Loma lps I mentioned earlier. This has the material recorded for Sue records that pretty much first brought Ike and Tina to national R&B prominence. Early and essential. The live lp Allen mentions is available on cd (I couldn't get the link to copy) as "The Ike and tina turner Review" on Kent.

rethas 'yeah' is a studio 'live' album. wonder if the original tapes are messed up, too? "Yeah" is a good album. Kenny Burrell is on it and it swings pretty nicely. Generally I think the Columbia stuff is underrated. I find myself liking the Columbia's more and more. I have the Ike and Tina "Live" lp Allen mentions. It's a killer. She kicks it off with Please Please Please and goes on from there. There were three early "live" Ike and Tina lps that I really dug. This one, one on Warner Bros and another on Loma (which I think is a Warner's subsidiary). All three of them kick butt.

Happy Birthday!! :party: Let's find that party that Lon is talking about!

Red Allen and Pee Wee Russell College Concert. Blue Monk!!

He was such a GASSS!

This is some great latter day Johnny Guitar! It's probably those albums with the covers you didn't like....