Harold_Z

I haven't heard this yet, but I'm under the impression that Joe Doggs is actually Joe Pesci - who sings just like Little Jimmy Scott - and as far as I know is a New Jersey cat.

Upgrade "Maiden Voyage". The first cd issue of that was pretty bad. The RVG was a distinct inprovement. As mentioned earlier - the Monk, Miles, Milt Jackson RVGs are pretty drastic improvements also. Otherwise - and I'll stress I haven't heard everything - many of the McMasters don't bother me in the least.

I dig doo wop and basically consider a lot of the records under discussion R & B. At least that's how I think of them. The records talked about here so far are some of the earliest music I remember - and I remember digging it and seeking out the records when I was old enough. For a great site devoted to this stuff - check this out United In Group Harmony Association

About a year ago, around 7:00 pm, watching TV, I suddenly got chills. Took my temperature and clocked in at 101. I fell asleep for about an hour and woke up feeling fine - no temperature - no further problem. WIERD!

the track that sticks out in my mind is "Straight To You" off of the Bessie lp. It's been too long since I've listened to Amina - gotta dig up those lps.

Well...that's pretty much my thoughts on this one. I dig McDuff, but I have a feeling that's pretty much HIS thoughts on it. I think it was a commercial effort. Brother Jack was trying for a big seller and if this was on at a party I'd probably be perfectly content. I remeber I dug the opening tune but got kind of bored with the rest of it. When McDuff hit the last track he did a standard groove blues and that sounded great...and I have a feeling that was the one HE enjoyed.

I've got to thank Lon for sending me a few TRAFFIC cds so I could revisit that scene. Steve Winwood's new cd prompted me to dig back a little further and Lon was there with the right(eous) stuff! MAN! What a nice group. It brings back the time when Jazz and Pop were not so far apart - when improvisation played a big part in the music of a group like this. I DUG IT.

Anybody know which take was used on the "Basic Miles" lp?

That looks really good..there's a lot there. Looks like I wait for that one. I haven't read the book, but I've heard of it and and would like to read it. Havbe to pick that up or too, or check the library.

Ghost...what's the attraction for the new dvd over the one you have? Extra material such as out takes or "better" remastering? This is one I've been meaning to get but haven't gotten yet. If the new one has "extra juice" I'll hold out for it.

R.I.P Benny. WKCR has been playing Benny comprehensively all day. I was very familiar with his playing, but was struck anew today by his greatness.

My last few sets have been unhinged. I think it's an improvement.

No, it's been down here too for a couple of hours.

take the shot.

Bad news.

Yeah Jim....I dig 'em too. For me they're local guys and I used to see them before they made it in some of the local joints. A GIRL LIKE YOU is one of the best and I AINT GONNA EAT OUT MY HEART ANYMORE and IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MORNING are nice sides too. I sprung for the 2 cd Rascals anthology awhile back and never regretted it. Live Felix handled the bass lines very nicely but on the records there's some VERY nice Richard Davis and Chuck Rainey. Also it should not be overlooked the Dave and Eddie Brigati were the Starlighters for JOEY DEE AND THE STARLIGHTERS of PEPPERMINT TWIST fame.

Yes...I'd go for a Matlock/Cathcart Mosaic. It's great stuff..and get the Condon "Toddlin' town" on there as well. The Condon was out on cd briefly in the late 80s on Atlantic - in Stereo.

The reality of the situation is that nothing the record companies can do is going to eliminate copying. The genie is out of the bottle. In a way it's poetic justice for them forcing the cd medium on the public. What did Shakespeare say? Hoisted by their own petard?

I just got it today. I LIKE IT A LOT! It's an organ trio with percussion added and Stevie singing and playing organ bass. On some tracks there's sax and flute by Karl Denson. Not overproduced at all - good grooves and good playing. It's improvisational in nature and the playing is just what it's supposed to be. Whether it's jazz or not is up to you - it's improvised within a framework, it cooks, it's intelligent. It's GOOD MUSIC. Great version of WHY CAN'T WE LIVE TOGETHER, which was an early 70s R&B hit by Timmy Thomas. If I remember that record correctly it was just organ and drum machine (rhythm ace).

What I always heard back in the 60s and 70s was that these guys were on a weekly salary (the figure I heard was in the neighborhood of $300.00 per week) and were NOT paid scale per date. I had no way of verifying this then or now - but I heard this from more than one source and from people who I thought were in a position to know and I didn't find it inconsistent with my experience in the R&B scene. I DO know that this is the way a successful company located in New Jersey (owned by a famous R&B singer of the 50s) operated - on an even LESSER scale. This would also be the M.O. for the "acts" who were signed to long term contracts at a fixed salary (higher than what the musicians were paid). It was a classic conflict of interest. It would mean that acts were managed, produced and booked by the same company. The name was owned by the company. BIG TIME SHAFT JOB.

PRYAN...Yes, the Kansas City Sessions are the Commodores. I have those on vinyl and didn't connect with that title. Great music.

Don't miss the Leser Young Commodore sessions. For me those are a must.

Brownie...the MOJ I'm refering to is a one disc comp on Proper labeled as Essential - Masters Of Jazz. it also has the logo Media 7 on it. This series came under discussion a couple of years ago on Jazz Corner - I think the general consensus was it was the same source material and mastering as the Masters Of Jazz label. At any rate it's a good sounding disc....But I like the RCA better.

I've come to the conclusion that sound preferences are VERY subjective. About the only thing we all agree upon is how ROTTEN the late 80s Sony reissues were. To me this set is an improvement over the Blue Bird set and over a Masters Of Jazz compilation that contains some of this material. Yes - there is peak distortion at points but not to the point where it ruins my listening. In general RCA issues sound good to me - and for the past few years - Sony reissues also.

Jim mentions EMUS. Another possibiltiy is FORUM. I have it on FORUM. I have another Basie (Roulette) album (the one where he is holding a baseball bat on the cover) on EMUS