John B

The only disc on this list that I have heard so far is Duos for Doris. I really enjoy it, but it is definitely not for everyone. If you have ever heard AMM you should have a rough idea of what to expect. For the two Erstwhile titles go to erstwhilerecords.com and listen to the sound samples (which don't really do justice to the recordings, as listening to the entire "arc" of the performance is crucial, imo) and read some of the reviews. There is also an electroacoustic discussion over at Jazz Corner that would be the best place to look for feedback on all six of these discs. If you pick any of these up let me know what you think!

get it. You'll love it. This is a great disc!

Grant Green - Solid Bennie Green - Soul Stirrin' Organissimo - Waiting for the Boogaloo Sisters Stan Turrentine & 3 Sounds - Complete Blue Hour Stan Turrentine - Never Let Me Go Tabla Beat Science - Tala Matrix Table Beat Science - Live in San Fran Ali Farka Toure - The Source

Grant Green - Idle Moments Grant Green - Blues for Lou Grant Green - Sunday Mornin' Miles Davis - Complete Bitches Brew disc 3 Arthur Blythe - Hipmotism Vijay Iyer - Blood Sutra Rudresh Mahanthappa - Black Water Thomas Lehn/Gerry Hemingway - Tom & Gerry Yume Bitsu - s/t

Don't sugarcoat it, how do you really feel about this disc? Didn't ubu or someone else give this disc a nice write up elsewhere a while back?

You had me excited, for a minute. That sounds just like the way I relax with Broetzmann's Machine Gun, Kevin Drumm's Sheer Hellish Miasma and Coltrane's Om, all playing at the same time. I'd add some Last Exit to the mix! And how can you even think about relaxing without mentioning Ascension (both takes simultaneous, of course) ubu I would be very, very happy if Mosaic would do a Last Exit box. Those disc are far too difficult to track down and go for quite a bit when they do show up, at least around here. The only disc of theirs that I have heard so far is Cassette Recordings '87, which I really enjoy.

Miles Davis - Complete Bitches Brew disc 2 Jimmy Smith - Groovin' at Small's Paradise disc 1 Stilluppsteypa & TV Pow - We Are Everyone in the Room VHF - Extracts Burkhard Stangl / dieb13 - eh

You had me excited, for a minute. That sounds just like the way I relax with Broetzmann's Machine Gun, Kevin Drumm's Sheer Hellish Miasma and Coltrane's Om, all playing at the same time. My Erstwhile order arrived last night and I am starting to listen to We Are Everyone in the Room now. So far I am enjoying it, but haven't been blown away yet. Ok, almost through WAEITR now. I like it, but there are many other Ersts I would pick up before this one, if you were just starting out.

Tony - thanks for the heads up! I just called Berkshire to see if it could be added to my order.

Have you listened to these two yet?: Y? (LeoLab CD053) Bertrand Denzler Cluster: Bertrand Denzler (tenor sax) / Norbert Pfammatter (drums & percussion) / Benoit Delbecq (piano & prepared piano) / Helene Labarriere (bass) nanoCLUSTER 02/2000 (LeoLab CD073) Bertrand Denzler / Norbert Pfammatter If not, stop what your doing and LISTEN NOW! I had been thinking about ordering a few of these Leo discs and, based on your enthusiasm, added these two to my order. I'm looking forward to hearing them! Hard to go wrong for $2.99.

Malachi Thompson - The Jaz Life Miles Davis - Complete Bitches Brew disc 1 Gunter Muller / Le Quanh Ninh - La Voyelle Liquide Rowe / Muller / Sugimoto - The World Turned Upside Down Alice Donut - Dry Humping the Cash Cow

"Soul Note Billy Harper, George Russell, Ran Blake, Kim Parker, Steve Lacy, Kenny Drew, Paul Bley, Archie Shepp, Andrew Hill, Mal Waldron, Art Farmer, Cecil Taylor, Max Roach, Joe Lovano, Arnett Cobb, Gil Evans, Lee Konitz, Chico Hamilton, Tim Berne" still around, they just had no U.S. distribution until recently. I believe Cadence is starting to distribute Black Saint and Soul Note in the U.S. again.

"Nessa Lester Bowie, Roscoe Mitchell, John Stevens" Nessa hasn't gone away. In fact Chuck recently reissued Roscoe Mitchell's Snurdy McGurdy on cd and is preparing to re-release his Warne Marsh disc.

Last I checked (before I quit) it was still available through emusic. Good album, it will be interesting reading this discussion.

not a recommendation but strange, nonetheless: AMG lists "The Dave Clark Five" as doing the live sound for the recent live albums by metal band Neurosis.

Tony - Jon got my order into today's mail, so hopefully I'll have the discs by Wednesday. I'll let you know what I think of We are Everyone... It will be back in print, eventually. (maybe after 1 or two years, according to Jon.) The only discs he will not be repressing will be the first four Ersts. Some interesting discs on the Bagatellan lists. Many I have heard and many more I have not. Too much music, too little time. (and $$)

track #9 - no clue who this is, but I am very curious. This sounds like a rock rhythm section supporting a Lacy disciple. It almost seems like the drummer doesn't need to be here as they are not really adding anything to this tune. The rhythm section doesn't bug me but they don't do all that much for me, either. I dig the clarinet player, however.

I feel like I should know #5. It sounds very ECM-ish to me. If it weren't for the lack of trumpet I would be guessing it was something by Tomasz Stanko. It sounds very Eastern-European to my ears. I'll have to give this one some more thought.

I'm thinking I might know track number #10 as being down this river. The trombone thread is sort of in fullest swing (sic) on this one as part of the mix. This disc is 'Swell'. As for #12, I do think this might be his most "serious" recording but for me his work on these-- here and here--, two stellar albums that Blue Note should be re-whipping onto the shelves, is where it's at!!! re:10 Really??? I would be shocked. I have never been a fan of that particular group but I would have to rethink my attitude if you are correct. re:12 I have never heard either of those discs. Based on the reviews you linked to I would love to hear them.

John , if you go to the link http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/jon3/jon3.shtml & click on 'play latest broadcast' - there is a Dave Holland concert all this week. (Ken Vandermark for a week as of Friday ) Gary - thanks for the link! I'm seeing the Big Band live at the end of the month and this will be great to hear in the meantime.

I really enjoy track #10. Not sure who this is but will probably pick up this disc when I find out. It sounds a little too "rock-ish" to be the Art Ensemble, but I could be wrong. Definitely sounds early '70's to me, almost with a blaxploitation film soundtrack quality to it, albeit a more avant garde soundtrack than I would expect. Great stuff! #12 is one from one of the more straight-ahead discs I have by this trombone player. I saw him live last year with his New Orleans brass band and will be seeing him again in March with his bass and drums trio. Great player, great sense of humor. All of his discs are worth exploring but this one, for some reason, has connected with me the least, so far.

Going back to the first post in this thread, Erstwhile is now stocking Funny Rat for $14. At that price I might have to grab a copy. Also, Jon Abbey just sent out an email stating that La Voyelle Liquide (my avatar) as well as "We Are Everyone in the Room" by Stilluppsteypa/TV Pow are going out of print very soon (he only has a few copies of each left.) LVL is highly recommended. It is one of my top five EAI discs so far. I don't own We Are Everyone... yet, but placed an order for it this morning.

One of my favorite albums (and bands) ever... They were pretty sloppy every time I saw them live but they always put on a great show with a lot of energy. I met Vern after one of the shows and he was a great guy to talk with. This is one of my favorite albums, too. I'm still sad that they broke up. Today - Dave Holland - Extended Play Miles Davis - Complete Bitches Brew disc 1 Unwound - Fake Train Rodan - Rusty

Good luck to you my friend but don't count that chicken before it's hatched. Listening to Shadow Boxes just now. Chaney - send an email to Micheal Ehlers at Eremite. He might have a spare copy lying around or there may be plans to repress the disc at some point. I'd like to have a complete set of Eremites at some point, so I'd be interested in a repress of that disc, too.

Miles Davis - Complete In A Silent Way Sessions Shellac - At Action Park Godspeed You Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to the Sky