Brad

Wow! This is news to me but I will not let them run down very low. Seems very strange however.

Excellent suggestion Weizen. I would love that too.

Jim, I've heard of him but never heard him so I'm taking your list and will be checking it out. I already have a bead on the Monk cd.

What I find amazing about this thread and I give Jim all the credit for planting the idea is the amount of names that I don't recognize whereas with the altoists there were none that I didn't. More wealth to uncover and listen to.

Hang in there is right. My thoughts are with you. As a recent (one year) sufferer of tinnitis and a chronic back sufferer, I can tell you getting old is no fun.

In light of the discussion on the Wes and Grant thread, I thought this thread might be overdue. I also believe Jim R mentioned that there are a lot of other guitarists that are worthy of mention so here goes. Two that come to mind for me are Joe Puma and Billy Bauer, although probably less overlooked than Joe Puma. I recently listened to Joe Puma on Webster Young's For Lady. I also have Eddie Bert's Encore and was suitably impressed at the time by his contributions. He's not flashy but I like his style.

I saw that those were part of his discography and you're correct that they haven't been reissued. It would be nice to listen to. I wonder why he didn't record more.

Earlier in this thread somebody mentioned the Webster Young cd "For Lady". This is apparently the only session he led and it's a pretty remarkable cd. There's top playing throughout with Webster Young and Paul Quinichette backing up each other admirably. The rhythm section is top notch Mal Waldron, Joe Puma, Earl May and Ed Thigpen. Webster plays both with and without mute. They do a rendition of Strange Fruit that is quite haunting with Ed Thigpen doing a drum roll to simulate an executioner. Webster Young is a very lyrical moving player and it's a pity he didn't record more. This is a must pickup in my view.

Wish I were. Are you going to take photos?

Here's one more question. The battery seems to run out pretty fast. Is this normal. How many hours can one expect before it needs recharging?

See, Garth, no brick a brats were hurled at you. When you say you have this guilty pleasure, this board is actually a lot more balanced than it was the old Blue Note board. Many (present company excluded) were not that kindly toward the OJC recordings and I remember on a Grant thread not one person sticking up for Wes. Yes, this is a different place now.

I'm just not seeing this or feeling this about Wes. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not a guitarist so I'm looking at this at more of a guttural level but Grant just moves me. I like Wes but not in the same way. It's like nice but I tend to reach more for Grant. I agree with b3-er but in reverse. I also think that Grant was playing this more like Bird on the guitar. I'm paraphrasing but I had read somewhere that Grant was trying to play the guitar like a horn, that he'd been influenced by Bird in that way. So he was approaching playing the guitar from a different direction.

This is a crappy thread.

Ditto on what Lon said. Didn't realize Allegro had dropped them.

Sorry, didn't mean to insult you. Even with some things that I don't like, I try to keep an open mind about going back to them and trying to listen to them again to see if I was wrong. Sometimes I am and sometimes not. There's been a few things that when I listened to them again I said "hey, that's not bad." That's all I meant. No offense intended.

take5, if you get everything everybody has been suggesting, you're going to be a rich man, but very poor financially .

This was clearly not my intent although it may seem that way but why one seems to get more recognition than the other. I think Lon hit the nail on the head with Grant having a lot of soul. I just don't get that feeling from Wes. It Ain't Necessarily So stands out one of the most soulful and superb guitar performances I've ever heard.

I was talking to a friend of my son's this past weekend. It seems he'd given up his business to study guitar and voice full time and he's now cutting a record. He mentioned to me that he was trying to do some jazz things on his disc and so we started talking about jazz. He mentioned that he'd listened to Wes quite a bit but when I asked him about Grant, I got a big questioning look. He'd said he'd heard of him but didn't know much about him and certainly never heard any of his music. This doesn't seem to be an atypical reaction. A lot of people seem to know Wes but not Grant or if they know them both, they certainly know Wes better. I'm not sure I understand why. The only reason that comes to me is that Grant's heyday was somewhat shorter than Wes' as Wes was operating from the mid to late 50s until 1968 whereas Grant made his mark from 1960 to 1965 (I don't see a lot of discussion about his later work). At any rate, I don't feel this oversight is warranted and while I enjoy both Wes and Grant, I prefer Grant.

I can't think of anything to avoid in this group. I haven't done a comparison the two Parker Verve sets but if you want the alternative takes, then get the 10 cd set. The closest you're going to get to a Green set is their 4 cd retrospective which is a pretty good set IMHO. I've been listening to the Miles Prestige set and happen to like it. No problem with the sound. The only problem I have with this set (and I don't know if anybody else has this problem) is that it's damn hard to get the cases out of the box. It's a very tight fit. What are you getting of Dex's? If you can get the BN. It's oop but shows up on ebay a lot. I recommend the SteepleChase box. Then again I also recommend the other 2 that came out last year: the Select and Prestige. There is also the one Savoy put out which is really just a reissue of Jazz West Coast, three different cds. For early Dex, you should pick this up.

Couldn't run the clip at work but liked what I heard.

That's very unfortunate. You are missing out on a genre of very fascinating music. how do I "miss out" on something I don't like? How about keeping an open mind?

That's a little to expensive for these tastes.

I don't see a price for this but I've got the feeling it's very expensive.

Happy Birthday Matt . When you turn 34 will you change your name to mgraham334?