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A Christmas Gift For You is mostly female vocalist, and is an all-time classic Christmas record for me. That Mariah Carey thing is a worthy homage, too, but that's not an album. This is! Hello, Ronnie! And then there's this!

They had this in the locked section, which was where I was afraid they would be hiding Jacy Parker... HAve you visited this thread yet?

Bit of a shock...RIP.

Laminated cover, no less, everything looked really clean (enough). $12.99 was about 4-5 bucks more than I really wanted to play, but, you know, that's not stooped expensive, so carpe diem, that's what you do, right?

Made it down there this afternoon, they still had it. Thanks again for the tip!

By all accounts, a true, gritty professional who never played softer than she really was. I've enjoyed a lot of her post-Prima work, especially when back by Nelson Riddle. RIP.

hmmmm.....cool! Thank you!

Now we're talking!

Hey,tempus fugit, it's not too late to wish me the best for the rest of the day. I'll take it and say "thank you"!

This is where I found her:

Haven't hear the record on the list, but Barbara Hannigan is somebody who's caught my ear the last year or two.

Most recorded "jazz bassist"? Who's the most recorded bassist, period? I suspect there's no way to ever know.

Here's to that!

Thanks, all , much appreciated. Without even having to load 16 tons, what the man says about another day older and deeper in debt, hey. I feel that one. But an evening with our blessing of a granddaughter puts all of that (indeed, everything!) into perspective. Life is good.

If anybody's interested in doing some homework, the Zita Carno essay(s) from 1959 are an indication of how the album began to gain cachet in critical circles as well. http://jazzstudiesonline.org/files/jso/resources/pdf/JREV2.9.pdf http://jazzstudiesonline.org/files/jso/resources/pdf/JREV2.10FULL.pdf It's not so much that it's a "Great Album" as it is the first (and for a long enough while, only) Coltrane album to present him as both player and writer in a rehearsed context. In terms of polish/presentation compare it to Coltrane, a few months earlier. Blue Train was not going to me made by Prestige, not at that time, not like that. In terms of prestige (no pun intended), Blue Train got off to a head start, simple as that.

it makes for a different experience playing it on LP than on CD, plenty of records are like that, there's one side to play over and over and then there's the other side, and if Side 1 of the LP had been released as a standalone 10", there would be no doubt that it WAS one of the all-time great jazz records. Reputations have to begin somewhere, and this album's reputation had long been in place by the time I came to it ca. 1974-75. But interestingly (perhaps), when people played it at parties or hangs, it was always Side 1. The "Blue Train" 45 was a staple on the Recovery Room jukebox. To hear Trane blaring out of a jukebox on that solo...wow. The hipsters in the room would always sing certain phrases of certain solos, they knew that stuff well enough to do that. I even recall Walter Winn one night, you know that part of Lee's solo where it ends in a little "DE-dot" phrase, Walter Winn was just walking through the room and as he walked by our table, he looked us dead in the eye, sang those two notes in perfect sync with Lee and kept right on walking around the room. Whatever one thinks about the album, that title cut, the head and Trane's solo is some powerful iconics.

The Title/lead tune + Moments Notice make for an endlessly repeatable/enjoyable LP side. and Lazy Bird makes it worth sticking out the second side.

Fwiw, what I think are ALL the outtakes have been circulating for a while, and I can tell you that imo, I'd pay a fair price (but not more) for this, and then be done with it. The real drag is Curtis Fuller, he's not got that much to say over and over. But Trane, yeah, and to a lesser extent, Lee. The main problem is with the ensembles. But that CD Japan price, plus shipping, that's more than I'd be willing to pay. Between US $20-25 though, all-inclusive, yeah.

http://nautil.us/issue/55/trust/the-resulting-fallacy-is-ruining-your-decisions

How lon has THIS Trane been gone?

Well, no. But here's where your Jerry Valburns of the world come into play, they just go in and steal it, then release it, and eyes roll, records get sold, and then it goes over to Andulorra and such. Goodman estate fumes, but does nothing, because compared to the big bucks they get from all the mainstream stuff this is nothing, they shrug it off and are probably secretly ok (enough) with it. We'd all like to think that estates are benevolent philanthropic entities, but c'mon....how much of the known Charlie Christian was recorded/released "legitimately"? How much was anybody paid for these? Besides, didn't the Goodman archives go to Yale? This Savory stuff, never intended for any kind of commercial release, recordings done as a hobby, we're lucky to have gotten what we're getting, the evolution of jazz and the health of the ahem KOFF "jazz industry" will not be affected one way or another by not getting to hear 4 unheard Charlie Christian performances. I'd love to hear them, sure, but just becuae Benny Goodman was an asshole in real life, and just because his estate seems to not give a shit about the Savory collection, there's no laws being broken, it's legal for an individual to be an asshole and still have success, and estates are not required to give up thier rights at aomebody else's price, so again, go find Jerry Valburn, Jr. and put him on the case, that's the way this shit works, or worked. Or you know, get Bob Dylan to pay big bucks for the shit and then have him release it do free to the world. See how that would go, put that Nobel and welding money to use. Yeah have Bob Dylan do it. Or Boris Rose. somebody like that.

Does the Goodman estate need the money? I think probably not. So why are/should they be incentivized to give it away or let it go for a "friendly" price? How much more Benny Goodman product do they - or anybody - need on the market? I mean, I like this era of Goodman as much as anybody, but with or without Charlie Christian, after getting the Mosaic, I think I'm done for a good while.

Remember the good old days when great jazz musicians didn't live to be 79? Here's hoping for a quality life for whatever time McCoy has left, days, years, decades. Whatever they are, may they be blessed with dignity, comfort and peace.