JSngry

Well, the LT Series (and the most of the whole Cuscuna first wave vault products) had a different sound from their origins on LP. That stuff had a different sound than di the Lion/Wolff product. It's been out some many different ways now...but yes, those records DID sound a different way.

Above all else "Stan Kenton" was an organization. If left strictly to his own musical devices, I doubt he'd have gotten too far out of Balboa. But he had a vision of a product, and he borught a lot of people into it, especially arrangers, who could get on board and ride that train. That's the conflict I had for decades, that he himself didn't bring that much to the table musically, relatively speaking, not nearly enough to merit consideration as an individual innovator . But eventually, the organization did some really nice things over the years, and the organization doesn't happen without him. So...that's that, I suppose, Artistry In Corporatism. Now I can enjoy the music (when I can enjoy it) without thinking about "Stan Kenton" actually being the person who created it. here's another good one, from the pen (and soprano) of Gene Roland, whose name on a Kenton record should always inspire at least a little interest. Still, if this is not enough to get too far out of Balboa, Balboa should have no complaints:

Kenton had a way of attaching his most familiar historical repertoir to whatever commercial fad came along. He did strings, voices, bossa nova, whatever. I found those two strings albums to be schlocky and uninspired. But you can't go wrong with "Machito". The bossa album, formula as it is, is actually very nice on its own terms. Great, relaxed tempos. Kenton arranged it, so you know it's going to be about the same thing evry time, but when the premise is "easy listening", that's not always a bad thing. The other one you mention is the Neophonic orchestra. I've always had a soft spot for that one that never really hardened. In LP form, Side1 is all you need, but if you have to settle for CD, oh well. Here's the John Williams cut: and here's one by Hugo Montenegro, which is kind of a cult classic, I suppose: Side 1, Cut 1. Hell, here's the other one from Side 1.

Nobody really listens most of the time. Some people are unable to, actually. All they hear is some sounds that fit a general profile that they've been taught to associate with something called "music". Well, every now and then, somebody actually listens. But not enough to cause anybody else to notice. There's a few people, though, and I am one of them, who hear everything, everywhere. That annoys the fuck out of the people you're with when they think you're listening to them and suddenly something catches your ear and diverts you. They think it's a choice, but it's not. Thinking back to the M-Base record, there is the one cut on there that might have been played, "Hey Jim". But no matter, still, funny! But people who can really notice the details in real time, no matter the environment....very few.

And they kept the LT covers. Somebody doing god's work there.

Threads merged. So sorry to hear this. He contributed so much to the music in so many ways for so long. Not just inside the industry, but as an individual citizen of the community. He could be a contentious cuss, for sure, but with real experience like his, I think he was entitled to his opinions, and to speak them as he chose. He saw so much of what most of us just heard about...whatever his grievances, he had his reasons. And his generosity, his willingness to pass on what he saw, immense, the benefits to us, incalculable. There is no substitute for that kind of experience. None. RIP, and gratitude aplenty.

And she's relatively sober (most of the time, I guess) more or less, maybe, so....yeah, PLUS - she's got her own money. If she wants to stay idealistic-ish, that's a big plus for going forth.

Stefan does good work.

I only got the ones with reported extra tracks.

If Monterrey was The Birth Of A Nation, and if Altamont was The Death Of A Nation, Woodstock was the Early Warning Signs That Went Ignored. In retrospect, of course.

Yeah, an alternate of "Don't Cry, Just Sigh" made it out on a Japanese reissue of the LT release.

It's always seemed to me that Monterrey was the one that has held up, musically and culturally.

All I need to know is to keep an eye out for new Roku channels!

See, no more live bands, no more live DJs, just Spotify. You can pump the party from your phone! Down side = nobody getting paid for playing anything. Bright side = Von Freeman, Steve Coleman, nobody leaving the room in horror.

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Oh, that.

or this guy

Ok, I still don't know what this Archie business, but oh well...here;s one:

What are we talking about here?

I'm actually a bit excited about the Mobesaic, I have so much of it on LP, and that's how I'll hear it probably forever, but I checked out the Japanese reissue of Third Season, the one with the bonus cut, and DAMN did that sound good. To have all of this material - which at this point is kinda deep-wired into my basic way of thinking about everything, not just music - in that quality of sound (or better?), yeah, that's a good thing, I'll pay money for that!