Niko

now I am really curious... Was there a Charles Mills album to listen to in 1959? And relatedly, what is the record Amram mentions here: "Charles Mills used to come to Mat [Matthews]'s apartment and bring a copy of his `Crazy Horse Symphony' which the Cincinnati Symphony had recorded." The fact that Rosemary Leary was at that time still living with accordionist Mat Matthews dates the story before 1965... The Cincinnati Symphony premiered the Crazy Horse symphony in 1958 but I can't find any traces of a recording... (which reminds me that it might just have been a tape or something...)

and here is an oral history by David Amram http://www.gvshp.org/_gvshp/pdf/Amram_DavidOralHistoryFinalWebsite.pdf which has a pretty amazing story involving Charles Mills that actually starts out with listening to a Charles Mills record on p.32-34. (At the top of p.32 is a Tony Fruscella anecdote I had never read btw).

must have seen this short documentary before - but only now do I appreciate that it is Charles Mills who composed the music and plays the flute ...

Jack Dieval Quartet - 30 Years of Jazz as seen on the cover, this quartet is actually a quintet with trumpeters Roger Guerin and Benny Bailey...

I'm teaching this stuff far too much, and what I say like at least twice a week is, "back in the 80s when there was interest, people thought that with a principle of X you could achieve whatever ..."

I really miss Josh Benko, a former mainstay on the SmallsLive broadcasts... nobody needs anything other than bop in principle

Somewhat unexpectedly spent all morning listening to Kenton broadcasts at the great AllThingsKenton webpage http://allthingskenton.com/table_of_contents/radio_broadcasts/ dozens of broadcasts, mostly from the early 50s, nicely documented with line-ups, arrangers and soloists... started out looking for the Dave Schildkraut solos and then went on and on... highly recommended!

blue is the new red...

regarding that other bass player "Robert Budd": A man named "Robert Rudd" is typically listed as the bass player for some of Wilson's earlier Exelsior sessions, see here or here https://www.jazzdiscography.com/Artists/Dotson/hd-disc.php and here for another reference to the guy in another context https://archive.nationaljazzarchive.co.uk/archive/journals/jazz-music/vol4-no4-1950/18684 which (imho) rules out that this is just a pseudonym

Well, I wasn't there but from all I heard about the US of the 1950s and 1960s, it did make a difference for the artists (and for most people actually) whether they were perceived as Black, White, etc. And this suffices to make the question valid. Don't really know about the US today... of course, things have changed, but I still think that most Americans would understand something like this: "If you look at the cover of the first Kenny Cox album you see four black guys and one white guy - Drummer Danny Spencer. From the way Spencer is standing in the picture, it is easy to mistake him for the leader and this probably lead felser to the wrong conclusion of Cox being white." Regarding white people contributing to the Blue Note Sound: no this cannot be the question because there were white sidemen like Pepper Adams who contributed a lot...

actually, that discography on discogs doesn't do a particularly good job at keeping John Thomas Williams and John Towner Williams apart...Luckily, there is a relatively clear cut-off year of 1958. Most of what's listed after that is a reissue or by John Towner Williams. There are some later recordings by the other John Williams such as this one https://www.discogs.com/The-Lon-Norman-Sextet-Gold-Coast-Jazz/release/9659978 this https://www.allaboutjazz.com/the-cts-session-spike-robinson-hep-records-review-by-samuel-chell.php or this http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/MYCJ-30061 (where the band is posing around a park named after JW in honor of his services as IIRC city commissioner)

Here is a set list for the Monk concert from a review which you can compare with your tape: Jackieing, Crepuscule with Nellie, Straight No Chaser, Rhythm-A-Ning, Epistrophy, Well you needn't and Body and Soul. (In that text, you also find the five tunes for the Blakey part)

"Saturday 29 April" clearly places the announcement in 1961, not 1960. This is line with the detailed Monk chronology in Robin Kelley's book and with dozens of articles you can find in the National Jazz Archive such as this one: https://archive.nationaljazzarchive.co.uk/archive/journals/jazz-news/volume5-no14/159061-jazz-news-volume5-no14-0010?q=monk+blakey

I had the same problem of redirection to phony websites around the same time. I don't use bookmarks and definitely have a different internet service provider than jsngry. So wherever the problem was, it's unlikely that is was on our end

I think this could be the site you mean: http://www.ipl.org/div/detjazz/ and here is a thirteen year old thread about the Jazz Before Motown CD ... http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?/topic/16502-jazz-before-motown-cd/

what's notable about the line-ups is that the drummer of the new Slide Hampton Octet is Charles Ruggiero who uploaded the above videos because his dad plays on those. (It's an interesting youtube channel anyway, with a selection of Vinnie Ruggiero - and Charlie's own efforts that range from bop to hard rock)

Classical music has had this problem that nobody remembers what it used to be all about for 150 years now... on the minus side, that is disturbing, on the plus side, it's quite amazing [and a sure sign of greatness] that it still finds young blood [loads of it, actually].

Jack Sels - The complete Jack Sels Vol 1

a day of traveling (home from christmas) and changing trains means a day of passing by records stores I hadn't visited in a while... just in: Marocco/Pizzi - The Trio [the mild irony is that the third trio member, Joey Baron, is by far the biggest name at this point in human history] Al Hood - Hein van de Geijn - Steve Clover - Spheres [Seattle visits the Southern Netherlands]

My own Lee Konitz story happened around 1999 when I was about 18 so my brother was 13... new neighbors had moved in and we heard saxophone playing from their apartment - my brother said "they play so much better than you" ... turned out that Lee Konitz had visited them and practised a little [which doesn't mean that it takes Lee Konitz to play better than me - still, this was the only time it happened in my own house]. Wishing him the best, too.

found this spotify... no clue how it got there (probably someone just uploaded the tape and designed a cover) - but: trying to figure out what's behind this recording, it turned out that Teddy Edwards seems to be the featured soloist on this recording (see here but it's also audible on e.g. the third and fourth track)

read this thread yesterday and couldn't leave that open question end it... It looks like the altoist Larry heard in the early 70s was a man named Joe Marillo. This fits the "Joe + Italian Surname" pattern Larry remembered, the story about coming to San Diego via Las Vegas is confirmed in his obit here and the self-produced album may well have been this one: https://www.discogs.com/Joe-Marillo-Quartet-Lady-Caroline/master/458932 The way I found out is quite funny btw: I bought Joe Romano's FreshSound Album yesterday and then read the .org threads on Romano (including this one). Stumbled across Marillo when I checked out the discography of bassist John Leftwich who plays both on Romano's album and on this one...

Eddy House [Edilbert Huys] Quintet - Live at the Acoustic Club Hard Bop from the late 70s .... it's a great album but it doesn't beat its own cover photograph

Ohm Sextet - J&M among others the recording debut of Ab Baars... rescued from a stack of mostly Herb Alpert records only yesterday... analysis of the address on the back reveals that the label (which produced only two other LPs) had its "headquarters" 300 meters from where I live - so I almost literally brought the record home...

here is the full list of oral histories in their archive http://americanhistory.si.edu/smithsonian-jazz/collections-and-archives/smithsonian-jazz-oral-history-program including many more, some with interesting interviewer/interviewee pairs like Steve Coleman and Von Freeman or Bill Kirchner and Lee Konitz