robertoart

Yeah I was disappointed when I first saw it, but watched a repeat a few years later when I was a bit older, and found lots of hilarious stuff. I just love the chemistry between Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder.

Yes and no. Not sell more records. But any crossover of audiences will benefit the interests of both parties. Each of which has shown extremely shrewd career and 'creative' choices since their respective 'get go's'. Cynical perhaps about the spin telling us just what an 'organic' process this project has been. Same way I remain a bit cynical about how after years of lobbying from the Ornette sidemen Metheny worked with, Ornette 'just' decided to go into the studio with Pat. And then read later Metheny 'sing the praises' of Denardo's drumming'.

These were my first thoughts. The 'quotes' seem like a parody of effusiveness. Kinda takes me back to this With 30 years of excess cynicism. I think 'the concept' has primacy here

Well who woulda thought it. Truth is stranger than fiction. I wonder how they got around Zorn's bagging of some of Metheny's Free Sonic stuff I wonder also, if Metheny will invite Zorn to guest on the next Metheny/Mays collaboration

Wow. This is like reading a boxing report. RRK took him in the fourth, RRK KO'D him in the seventh, RRK won by technical knockout in the tenth, RRK's 'opponent(s) threw in the towel in the twelfth, RRK in a special promotional match with a woman, ripped her bleedin head off... what a load of shit.

Actually the Prestige session tapes that don't include Miles, Monk or Coltrane are stuffed into the back of a storage cupboard under a pile of rags and other cleaning paraphernalia the Janitors don't use anymore, but nobodies bothered to throw out. A Japanese jazz executive stumbled over them serendipitously a few years ago while he was fumbling around in the closet (don't ask), and made some tape copies.

Mrs Slocombe Mrs Miniver The Phantom

Do you ever think you'll move to Florida Jetman, Sheesh....I'd hate to play a round of golf with you and Lou Donaldson.

Yeah. The oldies are always the goodies. Like Jim Hall.

Steptoe And Son Bram Stoker Stokely Carmichael

AREN'T WE AFTER MORE CREATIVE AND LESS RETRO DIRECTIONS? Try guys like Samo Salamon, Julian Lage, etc. All I have to say is OY. FWIW, Eubanks' latest is excellent, and if you want to hear some creative guitar playing from years past from him, just pick up any of the ones where he appears with Dave Holland. "Extensions" comes immediately to mind. Whether Malone is "at the top" depends wholly on your definition of that phrase. There are several guitarists out there who are at the top of their games, for instance. I don't know.........someone named "Metheny" comes to mind! Guys like Eubanks and Juris smoke both of these guys IMHO of course. Juris has a lovely soft approach to some very advanced Post-Coltrane modalism for sure (a bit like the Liebman school of Saxophanists), but he's hardly what I'd call a commanding player. Now Malone on the other hand, doesn't really suffer from that problem Eubanks I haven't heard in years though. Please take this within the spirit with which it's intended: you are out of your mind! Maybe, but I'm right. Juris is a Teddy Bear (in a good way) i also think the idea that some players move in more creative directions - especially those employing processed sound or updating Fusion - to be a bit like smoke and mirrors - and ultimately still just a matter of personal taste rather than 'creative breakthroughs'. The guitar is a bastard of an instrument like that. You're obviously a legend in your own mind! Truth be told, if anybody here wants to hear any of the very best jazz guitar ever recorded, I would highly recommend the Jim Hall 3 cd addendum to the "Live" album from 1975 (released by Artist Share late last year). You read that right --- yes, Jim Hall, and from 1975 no less. Yes everybody knows Jim Hall and yatayatayata......I'm sure a 'true New Yorker' must know what that means You're still shirking my point. None of the guitar players you (or Milestones) mention, are really presenting anything really new with the emperors clothes they wrap themselves in. Accept for Metheny's 'emergence' in 1700 or however long ago it was now. To think Stern playing bebop lines through a pedalboard is 'more creative' than a Malone who essentially plays the same vocabulary in a Piano Jazz based context is not very insightful. Frisell is not one of my favourites personally, his clawhammer hillbilly chord melody approach is very creative I suppose, but not my cup of tea culturally. The interesting or truly creative players will probably emerge from the Jazz/Hip Hop movement (or wherever it evolves too) or as always from the Free Jazz Chamber side of things.

AREN'T WE AFTER MORE CREATIVE AND LESS RETRO DIRECTIONS? Try guys like Samo Salamon, Julian Lage, etc. All I have to say is OY. FWIW, Eubanks' latest is excellent, and if you want to hear some creative guitar playing from years past from him, just pick up any of the ones where he appears with Dave Holland. "Extensions" comes immediately to mind. Whether Malone is "at the top" depends wholly on your definition of that phrase. There are several guitarists out there who are at the top of their games, for instance. I don't know.........someone named "Metheny" comes to mind! Guys like Eubanks and Juris smoke both of these guys IMHO of course. Juris has a lovely soft approach to some very advanced Post-Coltrane modalism for sure (a bit like the Liebman school of Saxophanists), but he's hardly what I'd call a commanding player. Now Malone on the other hand, doesn't really suffer from that problem Eubanks I haven't heard in years though. Please take this within the spirit with which it's intended: you are out of your mind! Maybe, but I'm right. Juris is a Teddy Bear (in a good way) i also think the idea that some players move in more creative directions - especially those employing processed sound or updating Fusion - to be a bit like smoke and mirrors - and ultimately still just a matter of personal taste rather than 'creative breakthroughs'. The guitar is a bastard of an instrument like that.

Whether Malone is "at the top" depends wholly on your definition of that phrase. There are several guitarists out there who are at the top of their games, for instance. I don't know.........someone named "Metheny" comes to mind! Guys like Eubanks and Juris smoke both of these guys IMHO of course. Juris has a lovely soft approach to some very advanced Post-Coltrane modalism for sure (a bit like the Liebman school of Saxophanists), but he's hardly what I'd call a commanding player. Now Malone on the other hand, doesn't really suffer from that problem Eubanks I haven't heard in years though.

Leadbelly Haystacks Calhoun Vernon Reid

I had a couple of the early sessions. Along with a couple of Russell Malone's. I don't think I kept any of them, accept maybe one of the Malone's. And a later one of his with a bonus song/video. Still love Whitfield's playing however. A particular favourite is his run through of Grant Green's Green Jeans, on the Grant Green Tribute Album. It's such a great tune anyway, but Whitfield is really loose and 'blowing'. Perhaps the 'tribute album' environment made him relax a bit and he really indulges his 'Bensonisms' on that one. And I always love to hear guitarists indulge their 'Bensonisms". I did buy a discount DVD of a collaboration with some 'White Strat' player, which was an excrable' Smooth Jazz outing of the worst kind

I've given up worrying about it all by now. Anything this deep archive wise, in the hands of these so called majors, might as well be notated as... lost... forgotten about...not in the interests of the listening world at large....

I felt like a deviant watching that. It must be good.

Adam Hills Lance Hill Hoyt Axton

If Bowie is well regarded in the musical consciousness of a figure like Shipp, he is far from an irrelevancy. And if you've ever been around any old farts in the Visual Arts, you'll know Bowie is 'a sacred space' C'mon, how good was Scary Monsters? Pop-Art, Art-Pop,, Art-Rock? It was a great moment in Mainstream music. Young Americans? If Bowie was 25 years younger, Meldhau would be covering him. The Thom Yorke of his generation

What a never less than interesting discussion going on in that interview. I can't ******* believe it though! He's a Bowie fan I was thinking I'm just about to chow down on 'Shipp on The Art Ensemble' ...and he's actually talking about DAVID Jones. C'mon, we all know that the REAL David Jones was in the Monkees! But they both shared an edgy flirtation with the Androgynous

It could be worse, it could be a Coltrane 'sheets of sound' type of tune, and you get 'the Cold Duck Time' solo.....actually come to think of it, I think I've got a few of those types of albums.....and quite like them

Great achievement Soul Stream. Personally I find Jimmy Vaughan a little to far towards the Rockabilly spectrum on my Blues Rainbow to really have much of an interest per se. But one thing for sure, any guitarist will eventually come across those Crossroads performances one way or another, if you're a guitarist or got guitar friends, you'd have to be on the moon to avoid it. Re- Jake Langley, I have come across his playing a lot in the YouTube universe, he is a great player and has a really earthy approach. One of my favourites who is not maybe so well known 'yet'. By the way, did you ever come around to liking Blood Ulmer's playing on Accent On The Blues and Memphis To New York Spirit? I remember reading many years ago on the board how you would have preferred 'any' other guitarist on those sessions They're some of my favourite Organ/Guitar recordings and I can't see how any Patton aficionado could see it any differently

What a never less than interesting discussion going on in that interview. I can't ******* believe it though! He's a Bowie fan I was thinking I'm just about to chow down on 'Shipp on The Art Ensemble' ...and he's actually talking about DAVID Jones.

Feed The Wombats is funny. Have you seen one in the flesh? They aren't around down my way that much, but if you want Kangaroos and Echidnas, we've got em FTW!!! Blue Train, have you heard Ozzy's speaking voice? Dont you know about DSOTM and The Wizard Of Oz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Rainbow Yeah. Don't you know what FTW means? I must have been having a dyslexic acronym moment, I mistranslated as roughly WTF? I was still laughing at jsngrys post further back in the thread But I didn't know for sure what FTW means? It has been google translated for me, but could be pejorative if you are a Biker?