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Well with the 'Aylers, Shepps and Sanders' you have some of the most 'profound' sound or tone to come out of an instrument. Navigating your way through bop or even modal harmony is not the point. I always equate "poseurs" as usually from the Rock side of Modern music. In fact without the 'audience' you get the feeling the Rock Music 'spectacle' wouldn't come to life. Whereas, when you hear Ayler, Shepp or Sanders, it feels like the 'sound' each man makes from his instrument would have came to be, to quote Ornette 'of human feelings' alone.

I'm glad someone else bothered to read that interview. Maybe old George was so candid and open in that interview to make up for all the years he hasn't recorded a burnin guitar album Benson 'is' the Jazz Guitar tradition, and along with Pat Martino, one of the last survivors of the great Organ/Guitar era. He plays a lot without a pick these days, and reels off the most effortless chord/melody improvisations imaginable. And add 'Bad Benson' to the list.

I don't think he is really shitting on the British Free music, he even acknowledges the awesome technical accomplishments of Parker. He's just saying the music is more of a Formalist approach, compared to the sense of sonic and social urgency he possibly hears in the Olutunji sessions. It would be interesting to hear his response to Peter Brotzmann? Perhaps he would also identify this as a kind of Formalism as well? Actually I think he is saying in a reluctant way that he does appreciate it. But that he is not very interested in it. I think music is more than a living for these guys. If it was 'only a living' they (those that dedicate their lives to the music), would have very little to say, accept whinge about the lack of gigs and bad pay when they get em. And speak of Formal concerns more exclusively.

Were Black Jazz musicians welcome in non-Black gambling situations or organised crime activities in earlier times?

Zorn does The Yodel. Starts around 33minutes in.

This is what happens when you let Irrelevancy in the door wearing a mane tag that says "Classic".

If I was 86, 71 might seem quite vital.

from the sublime to the ridiculous and why is Eric Burdon speaking with a southern drawl? and Ike's been replaced by Dolph Lundgren

for no particular reason... and welcome to 2006

Maybe he kept hoping they could get a hit with a live version?

Giving up your citizenship seems a bit extreme. Although It might be about money and taxes and other logistical things. No clips from the Private Dancer era jsngry

And the local Civics Test had only one question... Swiss Civics Tester - Who was the biggest **** in American Music History? Tina Turner - Ike Turner Swiss Civics Tester - Correct. Welcome to Switzerland.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-26/tina-turner-to-become-swiss-citizen/4485234

Yeah, here's an opportunity for you and your mates to get in on the act... A 4cd reverse racism tribute to Syl Johnson... 'Somethings been holding us back, Is it because we're not Black' Nasty. MG http://dothemath.typepad.com/dtm/the-sandke-affair-1-can-white-cats-play-jazz.html http://blog.adlermusic.com/2011/01/randy-sandkes-book-and-its-critics-including-me.html http://news.jazzjournalists.org/2010/12/book-reviews/ http://news.jazzjournalists.org/2011/01/jazz-race-politics-randy-sandke-replies-to-howard-mandel/

Yeah, here's an opportunity for you and your mates to get in on the act... A 4cd reverse racism tribute to Syl Johnson... 'Somethings been holding us back, Is it because we're not Black'

Yes, both "Free Jazz" and Ascension" have composed frameworks/sign posts, but don't the improvised contributions/interactions of the specific players at their best not only make up the majority of each work but also serve as the chief points of interest, compared to the relatively loose weave of the composed parts? BTW, I never heard it (don't believe it was recorded, only performed), but my favorite "loony tune" idea of the sort we've been talking about is David Murray's orchestration of Paul Gonsalves "Dimineundo and Crescendo in Blue" solo from Newport. Randy Sandke should have done it instead.

Grant Green - Mozart Symphony No. 40 in G Minor-1st Movement ......with that awesome Urban-Funk middle bit

Arthur Blythe - One Mint Julep Pharoah Sanders - Giant Steps

Johnny Winter is a great redneck guitar player. I used to not like him at all, but I have changed. It may have been a mid-life crisis. But there's no shame in saluting late 60's early 70's Johnny Winter, especially in the context of American/British Blues Rock players. And then there's the Great Fatsby Leslie West! Jimi Hendrix and John McLaughlin were Mountain fans.

That's what all the Buddhists say.

so your answer is actually: "nothing." thank you. Just remembered you were working with them, back in the day. MG i also was one of the folks who helped introduce Herbie, Wayne and Tina to Buddhism. i practiced for approximately 12 years. interesting that Herbie and Wayne are still going "gung-ho" but i essentially stopped practicing in the early '80s!! in Tina's autobio, which freelancer refers to, she writes about all of that. I only half remember the 'tele-movie' with Lawrence Fishburn(?) as Ike. I haven't read the book. So did you think of Buddhism as a Religion, or as a form of mind training? Why did you stop practicing? I was a Bahia for about four years. Most regretful and embarrassing move I ever made in life. And I made a few.

Johnny Winter! Now there is a White Bluesman (in his heyday) who could play it loud and mean. Faster, tougher, more authentic, and more 'Heavy", than any Englishmen. The real man's Stevie Ray Vaughan.

They could have acknowledged the tunes they stole(Wille Dixon, et al) Everybody stole. It was the nature of the beast. Many have had a "hard-on" for Zep from the beginning. Nothing new. I also found it funny that the "Roosky" who was honored that night wasn't even mentioned here. Surely a citizen of the former Soviet Union (the "Evil Empire") who sought political asylum during the height of the Cold War being honored by the American gov't would make for a more tantalizing/polarizing discussion. After all, it's not like there's been a shortage of equally talented American ballet dancers in our history (other than Edward Villella, who was so honored in 1997). Ballet dancing! Now your talking!

It doesn't really have anything to do with it per se. However, I suppose I hear of a lot of musicians who have turned to Buddhism. Larry Coryell, in his autobiography, places great emphasis on being introduced to chanting by Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter, and how this helped transform him from Alcoholism. And I am often confused about the difference between people (Western Buddhists exactly), who follow a meditation tradition, or chanting or whatever, and those that actually embrace the Religion as an ideology. Personally, I find it a perplexing thing and that devotees can be quite ambiguous about this. So whereas, Buddhism as it is practiced and organised in Countries indigenous to it - is as much cultural as Religious - for Westerners, it seems to float somewhere between 'self help' and actual Religion with a capital R. I think, in the Tina Turner biopic (at the end), they tended to frame Tina's Buddhism as her solace and self-healing mechanism - to counteract the residual psychic trauma of her life with Ike. I wonder though, how or if, they would have dealt with it had Tina embraced Islam - or become a Born Again proselytising Christian like Donna Summer? So in the West, Buddhism has this 'touchy feely' non intrusive, passive, goodwill attached to it, when at it's heart they still try and divine 'god child' beings like the Panchen Lama. So admittedly it does shit me a bit. And I quite like the way Social critics like Slavoj Zizek attack this Middle Class Buddhist mindset and the way this plays out in the West .