Guy Berger

It's fun to hear this group play these tunes; they tackle them pretty freely. There's an even later recording of "Paraphernalia" from the summer of 1970 once Jarrett joined the band.

Not answering your question, Bertrand, but I don't think Early Minor is in there, unless there are two different compositions with that name. They DID play the tune commonly associated with that title at other gigs around that time.

Botti is very good on the the BLUE album.

Interesting to imagine what would have happened if Miles had gone with this complex composition route in his electric period rather than the long, minimalist vamps. I know what you mean, but I don't think it's as simple as that...check this out: http://www.plosin.com/MilesAhead/CodeMD.html I sorta scoffed when I first read this information (in a bootleg's liner notes, actually, albeit without the larger overview provided here...but with specific references to the music on the recording itself), sounded like retro-fitting to me, but have come around with the hearing of more and more bootlegs. The markers are definitely there, and the effect is one or composition, rather large-scale, actually...not unlike how sonny would play these longass sets that would ramble from one tune into another but ultimately make set into a suite. In Miles' case, it was the other way around, he'd make a suite into a set. Was not contesting that... but for a little bit in late 1968 and early 1969, there was complexity introduced WITHIN compositions that Miles recorded. I also didn't mean "long, minimalist vamps" in a negative way - I like Miles's 1970-75 music a lot.

Interesting to imagine what would have happened if Miles had gone with this complex composition route in his electric period rather than the long, minimalist vamps.

Steve Grossman is among my least favorite 1970-75 Miles saxophonists, but I second this - he sounded a lot better on the April and June stuff that was not officially released.

They should have a deluxe edition that comes with its own lava lamp.

I don't know how representative they were of the entire British Invasion, but Mick Jagger and Brian Jones were both born to middle class families.

For all the talk about "real jazz", the first time I heard Sugar I was struck by how much more straight-ahead it was than some of the later, more commercial BN stuff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-25684040 i wonder what his favorite album is ABWH or YesWest?

Have been listening to the second Snakeoil album, The Shadow Man. I liked the 1st album just fine, but those who found it too "tame" or ECM-ish should at the very least give TSM a listen. Much harder-hitting.

I'm left wondering which version of pop/rock journalism was worse.

I'm in! The April 1970 concerts that weren't in Black Beauty are also worth hearing.

It's like Wagner. The guy's world view had some foul aspects that he publicly expressed. It's possible to appreciate his positive contributions while condemning the foul ones. I also perfectly understand/empathize with people for whom these foul aspects make appreciation of the rest of his work impossible, just like people who refuse to listen to Wagner for the same reason.

Love ST. Too lazy to think of my favorites, but I do find that Joyride and The Spoiler are underrated.

Unfortunately, a legacy tainted by anti-Semitism.

This is a great one - I think Discovery is even better.

Agreed 100% with Aric. Loved this.

I enjoyed this too.

I think you mean the U.S. version of Out of Our Heads I'm realizing that now. Hans, the link you posted above is awesome. THANK YOU.

Hans, thanks so much. I'm digging through this. Basically what I'm struggling with is that according to most fans, it seems the UK versions are preferable for Out of Our Heads, Aftermath and Between the Buttons. But it seems like if I go that route, I'll be missing on some essential tracks...

Hey guys, I am about to dive into the Stones album catalogue (I had a compilation previously). I'm a little confused by the whole UK/US version controversy and what's available on CD in remastered form here in the US? Can someone tell me which to pick up? I want to go completist here.

It isn't that astonishing - it paid the rent, and he was a highly in-demand sideman. It's also likely that he became more reliable once he kicked heroin in the spring of 1957, and gigging with Monk required less traveling than gigging with Miles (his recording frequency slowed a little in 1958 once he rejoined Miles).

This is amazing music, except for the Don Cherry collaboration which is merely OK.

I like these a lot, they're worth hearing 100%, but they just don't mean to me as much as my favorite Atlantic and Impulse recordings. I second JSngry's comment about Trane's encyclopedic song selection.