Guy Berger

Yes I know about all of those. I was wondering if he performed anything like "Walkin'" or "My Funny Valentine". Things like that. I just discovered a Round Midnight recording from 1968 with Chick Corea AND Wynton Kelly both on Electric Pianos. Last known MFV recording is from May 1966. Last known Walkin recording is from December 1968. Last known Round Midnight recording is from October 1969.

Miles played several of the 1960s Shorter quintet tunes (Paraphernalia, Footprints, Masqualero) in 1970 when Grossman was in the band. And of course, "I Love too Easily" as a trumpet/ep duet.

The latter has circulated widely as a recording and is available on voldemort.com.

Would be amazing to hear this. My recollection is that whenever Miles played "Nefertiti" live, it was with individual solos - i.e., not like the studio version. He performs "Nefertiti" on the Vol.2 bootleg correct? Still haven't bought Vol.2 or 3 yet. There are four known live recordings of Nefertiti, all from 1969 with the "Lost Quintet". 2 of them are available on the second box (7/26/69 and 11/5/69).

Would be amazing to hear this. My recollection is that whenever Miles played "Nefertiti" live, it was with individual solos - i.e., not like the studio version.

So why does anyone care about Ferguson anyway? Isn't he primarily known for making high-pitched squealing sounds and recording lots of bad music?

Very excited both about the Mark Turner (album & concerts), and about the Tim Berne (Stone residency).

This is why we still have the DVD+streaming plan.

Frank Zappa, We're Only in It for the Money

He was extremely hilarious, but I think you could argue that (with some major exceptions) that he exercised more quality control with his serious and semi-serious roles. On the other hand, if I could keep just one RW movie, MRS FRICKIN DOUBTFIRE.

I've finally gotten around to listening to the first two PI discs (Harvesting Semblances & Affinities, The Mancy of Sound), which I picked up at a SC performance about three years ago. Interesting - I definitely wasn't anticipating this sound, which is much more "acoustic" and less funky (though still very rhythmically rich!) than the other discs I've heard. Will have to pick up Functional Arrhythmias too.

I've been enjoying Dufay's music recently - I picked up the Jeremy Summerly/Oxford Camerata disc on Naxos. I also recently picked up the Clerks Group's performance of various Johannes Ockeghem sacred music; I believe the label is ASV.

Guys, I keep trying to find JS Bach's best bluegrass album, but have so far been unsuccessful. Any recommendations?

One other option, pursued by the OP, is trolling people who do like it. Persecution complex implies a level of sincerity not present here, IMHO. (Not the most original troll, granted...)

When I studied composition at a university in the late 70s under J. Lessard, he, along with all of the other teachers there, were all pushing the strict twelve-tone method of Schoenberg (whom Lessard disliked- he preferred Webern). I switched teachers, and my new teacher disliked Webern (he said his music sounded like a bunch of little farts), and preferred Schoenberg. Meanwhile, Lessard hated my new teacher's music (he'd slam the door shut if he heard him playing it on the piano, saying something like, "will you stop that infernal noise!"), along with jazz (I asked him what he thought of it, and he said, "I don't think of it"). At that point, I just decided to get my degree, and forget about academia. Fast forward to 1990, and the Times does a big article on the death of twelve-tone music (after it had completely emptied the concert halls), citing many of the leading composers of the day saying things to the effect of, 'Oh, it was all just a big mistake, and we won't do it anymore, if you'd just come back to the concert halls...' I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER?!?

SGCIM, thank you. Your insight into this music is truly witty, insightful and innovative. I cannot wait to read more of your commentary on all subjects, musical and nonmusical.

I picked up Meant to Be and Time on My Hands a few years ago - my first JS discs except for a few sideman appearances - and they're outstanding. (Though I believe Allen Lowe's comments about the terrible sound that many contemporary jazz guitarists have applies in spades.) Highly recommended.

Loved this.

Thanks to Ethan for gathering those "eulogies".

Discuss: THE MAN & THE JOURNEY was Pink Floyd's best concept album.

My favorite work with him seems to be from around this period, late 60s through mid 70s. Columbia and ECM in particular did an exceptional job of recording him.

Another strong point, but one where we might diverge slightly. It wasn't until Echoes that I thought they competently established a sense of mood. Pretty much all of the extended workouts before that seemed to meander to their detriment. I'm willing to review and reconsider, but the live stuff on Umma Gumma, for example, just seemed like a band lost in the wilderness desperately searching for a way out. I don't think the live album on Ummagumma is necessarily the band playing at its best; listen to the Fillmore West concert from April 1970 or one of The Man & The Journey concerts, this was definitely not "a band lost in the wilderness desperately searching for a way out." But after 1973 the concerts gradually became more scripted, predictable affairs. And by the time you got to Animals, the magic was rapidly draining from the studio work too.

this was our music

Yeah but by then, the first derivative was negative. Huh? They'd peaked and were getting worse.

Yeah but by then, the first derivative was negative.