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Love the album, but I'm not sure if I'd pick this as my personal favorite. I love Lockjaw's "blowing" proclivities.
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Very similar to what Robert Fripp is doing at his DGM Live site. He also offers the downloads in either mp3 or FLAC (at different price points) so he's giving the power of choice to the consumer...what a concept!
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Here's the issue with subscription services (as I mentioned briefly earlier in this thread). Most of them have failed, Rhapsody is one of the few survivors (they bought out most of their failed competition, including the Yahoo music service just a couple weeks ago). The customers pay their 12.99 a month or whatever, they are able to listen on their computers or load it onto a compatible portable music player (but not the iPod...at least last time I checked, different DRM). You have to sync the device a couple times a month or the tracks stop playing because the temporary license expires. It's an okay service for what it is...but here's the problem. The majority of the complaints around this type of service (customer complaints, I should know, I read thousands of them) is that once they want to burn a physical copy onto a CD they have to purchase the tracks...but they don't understand WHY they have to purchase the tracks since they've already paid their 12.99 a month. Yes, I know, they're stupid...but most consumers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. At that point they feel like they are being ripped off. The other problem with that service is people get tired of it fairly quickly, the average subscription only lasts about 3 months...many never go beyond the free trial. They think it's cool at first, but they quickly get burnt out on having TOO MUCH music to choose from and they invariably want to OWN the music...not rent it. So they cancel the subscription and either move onto iTunes or they hit the file sharing sites. Emusic is the smartest thing out there IMHO. They work like a subscription service, but you actually OWN the shit once you've downloaded it. No DRM, no lost license keys when your hard drive crashes, just an .mp3 file that's yours. So far to me that's the way to go...if the majors catch on then maybe a workable system will come out of it. Ah...but what will the majors want to CHARGE for this service? That's the real sticking point. The days of people willing to pay $15.99 for a single album are just about completely over. Why bother to buy Metallica's Ride The Lighting on CD for $15.99 when you can buy the mp3 version on Amazon for $8.99? (yeah I know, couldn't resist using Metallica as an example). If the record companies are willing to part with their precious "holdings" for a similar price tag as eMusic it just might work...but I seriously doubt it. Also, I'm becoming more and more interested in lossless formats for audio...but the record labels believe the prices for these formats should be identical to the physical CD (I've been on conference call arguments about that very subject). But why should it cost the same for a lossless copy when they don't have to physically create anything? It shouldn't. But then why are they still trying to sell CDs for many times what they cost to produce? Because they are greedy bastards who only care about the money and don't give a flying rats ass what the public wants or whats in the best interest of the music.
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That may or may not be true - how would you ever prove that more people do this than just simply download and never purchase anything legitimately? It's anecdotal, and my suspicion is it's not the norm at all. That's why I didn't venture a guess at the amount but stated "quite a few" which in my mind would be slightly more than a "tad".
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Thanks for sharing. I have a feeling there are quite a few people like yourself out there who are discovering the music the best way you can...and then going the legit route and purchasing it when it becomes available. Blogs = free advertisement & marketing - at least that's what they COULD be if developed correctly.
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I know it's just a drop in the bucket...but 18 cents a gallon less feels pretty damn good.
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The Stupendous CD Sale, Part Three
Shawn replied to Dan Gould's topic in Offering and Looking For...
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Late last week regular unleaded was $3.93 a gallon here, last night on my way home I noticed many stations were selling it at $3.75 a gallon.
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slightly off topic, anyone out there who really believes, that, say, almost the complete riverside output will ever be sold as downloads... (say, who believes that at some point in the next 30 years both the paul serrano and the lenny mcbrowne album on riverside will be made available for download by the owners?) i definitely can't see them getting this stuff out of iron mountain and up for download at this point... I was under the impression that they archived everything prior to sending it there. On another note, I worked at a company that used Iron Mountain and all you have to do is put in a request for the items you need and they'll deliver them the following business day.
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Two questions - 1) Is this just wishful thinking, or is something fixing to happen for real? 2) Does "all" really mean all? Jim, it's real. And yes, someday all. They are archiving now. Who is they? What format are they archiving in? Does "hi-res" mean 24 bit? How are they planning to handle artwork & liner notes?
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The music "industry" has been proving themselves more and more clueless over this issue since it began. It's been a good 8 years or more since the "Napster heyday" and what has changed? Not a damn thing. They've tried everything imaginable from lawsuits, to copy-protected discs that backfired on them, to new physical formats that nobody wanted to invest in, etc. Anything except embrace the new century and figure out a way to work WITH the internet instead of against it. Even the "legal" sites are strangled to death by the majors...iTunes is still really the only completely successful model out there...and you know what, they don't make shit off the songs they sell, the profit margin is minimal. The only reason iTunes exists is to sell the iPod, all the money is made on the hardware. The subscription service sites have mostly all vanished (almost all bought out by Rhapsody)...I should know since I lost a job because of one of those sites shutting down. The labels are so greedy and have so many irrational demands that there just isn't any money to be made on the subscription angle...and damn little to be made from the ala carte purchasing unless you have a "gadget" that everyone wants to own. But then we're still left with all the stuff that the major labels have never gotten around to releasing in ANY format since the LP. That's where these blogs come in... ...but let us not also forget our good friends at Wal-Mart and the other major chain music stores that drove all the independent record stores out of business. You know, the kind of music stores that would stock things from small labels like Chuck's. Blogs can't be 100% to blame for the current state of the industry...
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No answers to your questions. I'm just amazed that a lot of people think that they have the "right" to hear something just because they "want" to hear it. See Jim's hypothetical scenario above. There are still tons of Hollywood movies from the 30's and 40's that have never been issued on either VHS, DVD or whatever...stuff I've wanted to see for 15 years or more...probably will never see them because there's no money to be made on releasing them. But if somehow these things magically appeared online you think I wouldn't watch them after waiting decades? Durn tootin' I'd watch 'em.
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I really enjoyed this movie, mostly for the nice characterization touches and the relationship between the leads. Very well written and acted film. I can understand some people might be disappointed because it wasn't more of an "event movie", but for fans of the low key aspects of the original show it's a real treat. Plus since it's been so long since the last film I think they did a nice job of creating a story that anybody could go and watch, even those not familiar with the original show or first film. The whole "conspiracy" storyline on the series ran itself into the ground anyway, I was tired of it. Sometimes in the middle of all the bombastic summer films it's nice to sneak in an intelligent little creepy film for contrast.
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Missus wanted to catch some fresh air
Shawn replied to Willard's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
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Don't count me amongst the people that demand music for FREE, I want the rightful people to get their fair share. But the shit has to be available for that to happen. I applaud your efforts for continuing to work to make your catalog available!
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Good, I'm looking forward to that day.
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The answer is: The download creates a new copy without anyone being paid for their work. Not really that tough to figure out. Could that "copy" be sold in the same format as the original? No. It's a degraded copy of a used vinyl album manufactured decades ago and no longer available for purchase. If the guy running the blog was SELLING this item, then I could buy your argument. However, that's still not the point I was getting at, which is the moral implications of buying ANY used product. No moral impilications of buying a used cd/lp/78/ect. - the royalites were paid for that sucker. Format is not the question, content is. The content has intellectual and property values, the format is another question. Okay, I can see that. Guess someone should be calculating the interest level of items available on these blogs, so that information could be passed onto the record label morons running the reissue departments...which of course still wouldn't be a big enough drop in the bucket for them to put the effort into releasing either a digital or physical copy of said intellectual property. Which takes us back to either searching used bins for 20 years trying to find a copy of something...or buying a used copy on eBay for a fortune...or downloading the thing off one of these sites. The artist-label-publishers-manufacturers still won't make a dime off any of the above scenarios.
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The answer is: The download creates a new copy without anyone being paid for their work. Not really that tough to figure out. Could that "copy" be sold in the same format as the original? No. It's a degraded copy of a used vinyl album manufactured decades ago and no longer available for purchase. If the guy running the blog was SELLING this item, then I could buy your argument. However, that's still not the point I was getting at, which is the moral implications of buying ANY used product.
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I still find it a hypocritical belief that buying used CDs, DVDs or LPs...whether online or in a used store...is somehow "acceptable" where finding the exact same product on a blog is not. In neither case does the artist/label get any money for the item in question. Except for the one time it was purchased new of course. I'm NOT saying that downloading copyrighted material is okay...I'm just saying that it's no different than acquiring the product at Half Price Books on Sunday afternoon. (except half price books doesn't get their 50% mark up) If some of this stuff had any chance of being legally issued I'd happily buy it...there isn't any money to be made from it, so it most likely won't be. Does that mean it should just fade into oblivion? At least some of these artists can at least be remembered for their music online...they get 0% exposure sitting in a dusty bin in the back of a record store somewhere. I have no answers, I'm just asking questions.
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Really? I spent years trying to convince her that 4-1/2 inches was 7! Just PM me the manual, in pdf or text . It might sound better if you describe it as "24 bit word length".
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For Tull fans there is now a 40th (!) anniversary edition of This Was... Disc 1 Original Mono Remastered My Sunday Feeling Some Day The Sun Won't Shine For You Beggar's Farm Move On Alone Serenade To A Cuckoo Dharma For One It's Breaking Me Up Cat's Squirrel A Song For Jeffrey Round BBC Sessions So Much Trouble My Sunday Feeling Serenade To A Cuckoo Cat's Squirrel A Song For Jeffrey Love Story Stormy Monday Beggars Farm Dharma For One Disc 2 New Stereo Mix My Sunday Feeling Some Day The Sun Won't Shine Beggars Farm Move On Alone Serenade To A Cuckoo Dharma For One It's Breaking Me Up Cat's Squirrel A Song For Jeffrey Round Additional New Stereo Mix Love Story Christmas Song Original Mono Remastered Sunshine Day One For John Gee Love Story Christmas Song
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Police say man shot lawn mower that wouldn't start
Shawn replied to 7/4's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
I once knew a guy who shot his Chevy Nova full of holes because it left him stranded out in the woods when he was hunting. He emptied all of his remaining shells into the car... ...then he had to hitchhike home...with a rifle! He walked the entire way... -
If there's anyone here with even a passing interest in either film noir, classic action movies and/or romantic screwball comedies...this film is a must see. Available on Netflix if that's your bag....
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I have quite a few friends on this board...and many more that I'd like to get to know better. There's not too many places on the internet...or real life in general that you can say that for.
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When We Were One should be a jazz standard...one of my absolute favorite songs, hauntingly beautiful.