FWIW, my original intent was more about the machinations behind the movement that created the aforementioned astroturfing/scapegoating etc. and how hopefully it's in the past (at least at its most aggressive) rather than the individual provocateurs themselves, but I guess that's really inevitable. They're still alive and pretty vocal and it's also inevitable that jazz forums address the Burns Jazz doc since, despite its faults, did and does seem to have caught attention.