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I would definitely buy it. Possibly you haven't really looked at the mosaic booklets on musicbrainz. Even the highest res is not terribly high res. Many or even most of the images are somewhat dark and grainy. They are enough to blow up and read the content and sort of see the pictures. You have a better argument suggesting that the mosaic booklets aren't liner notes than suggesting some sort of copyright absolutism. However the booklets really do look an awful lot like enhanced format liner notes! I regard cover art, liner notes, booklets etc as forms of promotional material for the main item - the music. These all seem to follow a pattern: the contributor is paid at the point of sale (of the artwork, notes, etc) and no residuals are paid. Suppressing liner notes and calling them proprietary information does a disservice to the artists, IMO.
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OK so you think musicbrainz is stealing Bob's writing to enhance their web pages. Just as they are 'stealing' from the writers of most liner notes - right, I mean this is not about Bob and Mosaic, this is all liner notes and all liner note writers. But there is another way to look at this: you are advocating suppressing liner note information about Lou Donaldson and preventing the public from reading it. And by extension, not just Lou. You don't want the public to have free access to album covers in general because the artist and photographer won't get paid when we see an album cover on the internet.
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Cheezit, the booklet cops! Plus the copyright absolutist police. I don't know if you have ever visited musicbrainz but for darn near every record ever published they have cover art. Are you gonna shut down every piece of cover art, liner notes, booklet on the site? Those are all technically copyrighted too. Or is it just Mosaic booklets that you are so outraged about? Are you the self-appointed enforcers of liner note copyrights? Or are you gonna let the music publishing business take care of its own biz? This stuff has been up for years and there is no sign that any record companies don't want their booklets on musicbrainz. Most of the art is probably posted by the companies themselves (including Mosaic) because it's free advertising for the music, which is really what they are selling. If they were selling the liner notes (or if I were) that would be one thing. Then musicbrainz would be in competition with the labels. But the labels are not selling liner notes and are likely very happy to see them go up on musicbrainz. (If mosaic sold the booklets I would buy some). If Mosaic isn't kicking about it I don't see why you need to insist that these booklets exist as 5000 paper copies and that's it, nobody else is ever allowed to read them, because, um... copyrights!
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There are quite a few of the booklets on musicbrainz (not to mention liner notes for lots of other cds and lps). As long as the set is out of print, I think it is a good thing. Music listeners gain from the information and Mosaic doesn't lose a thing. Once a set is sold out, they are not going to receive any revenue from it anyway. (No, I have never posted any Mosaic booklet on musicbrainz. I photograph them for my own use because my eyesight is not great and I have difficulty reading the hard copy. My photographs are pretty amateur and I just turn the pages and take a shot and don't bother cropping etc; whoever is posting them on musicbrainz takes the staples out and does a fairly professional job of it).
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Don Byas Mosaic set available for pre-order
Stompin at the Savoy replied to jazzbo's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Say what you will, this was for the recent Paul Desmond set, and Scott did respond and did expedite the shipment. I don't think Scott will mind if I quote his email here: My point is not to define how service will take place or how they operate nowadays but rather that they really are pretty good about customer service if you give them a chance. It's a very small outfit and they depend on a number of providers to print the books, make the boxes, manufacture the disks and mail them; I expect delays occasionally and am not bothered by that. -
Yes indeed, many thanks Ian for all the work getting these up so quickly after the volumes are released! I've been relying on your work as I listen to these. I am puzzled that the company doesn't provide something official but hopeful they will someday.
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About a year back I noticed that musicbrainz had photos of the Lou Donaldson Mosaic set booklet ( https://musicbrainz.org/release/68c6e801-6648-4b4d-a246-7a1af02cb564/cover-art ) and went for a cd quality download of the music from Presto ($40, which is published as digital media by Blue Note). I had heard most of it at one time or another but enjoy getting a coherent bunch of albums with the Mosaic treatment. A lot of Donaldson's output has aged really well, IMO.
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Don Byas Mosaic set available for pre-order
Stompin at the Savoy replied to jazzbo's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
After they redesigned the site all the original accounts got lost, so they offered the option to create a new account. When that first happened I ordered without creating an account for some reason. Everything worked fine. The next time I created an account with the order. Everything worked fine. Whenever you experience a problem with orders, just write to them. They are very responsive. There was one time I bought a set for a relative. There was some delay and it looked like the relative might change address before the set arrived. I wrote to Scott Wenzel and he expedited the shipment and personally took the package to the post office. People complain about Mosaic but in what other record company would one of the principals write back to you and take care of your order? They don't have many people working there but since each release is typically only a few thousand sets (divided into a few pressings) they are able to give very good service to individual customers. -
Your favorite solo piano records
Stompin at the Savoy replied to Dub Modal's topic in Recommendations
I like the Dick Hyman volume: -
Yes, there are some discrepancies in the track order and the documentation, which is provided by a fan, not the company. The company starts this huge reissue program and then provides no discography? Nevertheless, what we have is better than nothing, I suppose.
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Don Byas Mosaic set available for pre-order
Stompin at the Savoy replied to jazzbo's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Yeah there were spots in the Basie Columbia discography where they left things out because Lester Young didn't play. I suppose every additional disk reduces sales numbers so they have to strike a balance, esp when the set is already 10 disks... -
Don Byas Mosaic set available for pre-order
Stompin at the Savoy replied to jazzbo's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Pre-ordered! -
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So, What Are You Listening To NOW?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to JSngry's topic in Miscellaneous Music
1955. It's kind of hard bop just emerging from bebop. Wallington was kind of a bop figure who retired from the music fairly early. -
So, What Are You Listening To NOW?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to JSngry's topic in Miscellaneous Music
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what are you drinking right now?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to alocispepraluger102's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
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A lot of the Lunceford material seems to be on a digital series Verve issued in 2017. Four volumes, four cd's worth of material. The order is different from the Mosaic box and I am not quite sure how the two releases relate but the digital release would appear to be a subset of the Mosaic. Mosaic booklet is here: http://web.archive.org/web/20141207214247/http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.asp?number=250-MD-CD&price=$119.00&copies=7 CDs
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Which Mosaic Are You Enjoying Right Now?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to Soulstation1's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Judging by the sound and the fact that this came out in 2022, this is very likely derived (stolen) from the masters done for the Mosaic set - The Complete Blue Note Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Studio Sessions. I was able to get the other two albums on the Mosaic set - Chant and The Creeper - as downloads. Chant in particular was rather nice because Presto had this as a hi res 96 kHz, 24 bit file, which turned out to have incredible detail, esp the cymbals, when listening with the appropriate equipment through LDAC equipped headphones. To complete my poor man's Mosaic, I get the book here: https://musicbrainz.org/release/cc1484c5-c59f-439c-8fe3-a10763ab1b3a/cover-art -
Which Mosaic Are You Enjoying Right Now?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to Soulstation1's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
I had some of the 7 albums on here. I found it was cheaper to get CD quality FLAC files for the whole set from Presto ($32) than buy the remaining single albums. The mastering is good on this set. Listening to Up and Down at the moment. -
So, What Are You Listening To NOW?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to JSngry's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Yeah, they are kinda pricey though. I have a Japanese issue of The Procrastinator, which includes the later sessions on some releases of Sonic Boom, so I only need the first session with David Newman and Harold Mabern, around 37 minutes. I am thinking of getting a download. Presto has cd quality for $8.50. I'm retired and have somewhat limited resources, necessitating that I be a bit of a cheapass now... The session with Newman is quite nice and there are a couple spots where Morgan's trumpet work is really marvelous. -
Thanks for the correction!
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So, What Are You Listening To NOW?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to JSngry's topic in Miscellaneous Music
For some reason I never heard this before. It's somewhat hard to obtain on cd. -
Volume 5 is on spotify now. As far as I can tell scanning the titles quickly it looks like this volume includes all of disks 3 and 4 of the Mosaic Ellington orchestra set plus 4 tunes with one alternate each from Victor sessions in Sept and Dec of 1933. I was planning on getting the download of this but after listening to the 8 Victor session tunes not on the Mosaic (last 8 tracks) I am re-thinking that. Probably not worth it.
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Volume 4 includes all of disks one and two of the Ellington Orchestra Mosaic set. Plus it has a small number of RCA sessions.