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I think you made one mistake...when you asked the pizza lady, "how much do you get?" and she said, "honestly, not that much", that was your cue. You blew it dude. Opportunities like that don't come around every day...especially for jazz nerds.

Yes, thanks for the list Bill. Lots of stuff to mine there, and I've already started. My focus this year has not been with new releases, so I'll be watching this thread closely.

This sounds like a beautiful idea Allen. I wish you good luck and will be very interested to see how it all turns out.

Sounds right up Chewy's alley.

This month's (heh hem) orders: Charlie Parker -- The Washington Concerts (BN) Tommy Dorsey and His Orchestra -- Golden Era (Cleopatra) Royal Hartigan Ensemble -- Blood Drum Spirit: Live in Chiaa (Innova) Mark Masters Ensemble -- Farewell Walter Dewey Redman (Capri) Mostly Other People Do The Killing -- Shamokin! Don Byas -- Midnight at Minton's (Highnote) Gil Evans -- Gil Evans & Ten (Prestige/Ojc)

If the man likes to teach, it doesn't matter what level you're at. You'll regret if you let the opportunity pass.

They've been banned by the world wide web.

One of the all-time great names. ... RIP.

Nice!

Were you looking for the Stockholm thread? Go to the Oslo thread, head due east.

Fair enough. Balance. (Eww ... that sounds perilously close to a marketing slogan. ) And something is definitely lost when we stare into a computer screen and pour over links to crosscheck the avalanche of "facts," versus sharing the familiar sections of a newspaper and discussing daily events with our loved ones over breakfast. In the end, I, too, prefer the latter ... and still do. No sense to pretend otherwise.

Was nice and cool for a couple of days. Fall-like. Had a low in the 40s the other night. It'll be back up in the 80s tomorrow. And so it goes.

As a journalist who has one week left to work on the newspaper for which I have toiled for about 15 years - and the company for which I have worked for 19 years - I, too, am a half-full thinker on these issues. I'll need to get employed before the golden handshake runs out, but I fully expect that my future will be online, and more than likely with a whole bunch of employers and publications/whatever, rather than a single boss/paycheck. Bummer. Sorry to hear about the job. Good things can come out of seemingly bad situations sometimes, right? Fifteen / nineteen years is a pretty good run. I'll have completed 20 years next Aug. 1. ... Hired in 1989. Whew.

Yes, happy birthday!

You're right. Online advertising may never match the heyday of newspaper advertising. But newspapers have to deal with the advertisers they have left, primarily real estate, auto, retail, supermarkets, restaurants and the like. You correctly point to Craigslist as an outfit that siphoned off huge chunks of classified advertising from newspapers. Newspapers will likely never again have the volume of classified ads they once had. Why? Craigslist reached that tipping point, and when they did a mass migration of classified advertising took place very quickly. Newspapers ignored the threat until it was too late. What to do, what to do? ... Get ahead of the curve with the advertisers you have left. Channel them to your internet site. Partner with some of the big boys like Yahoo. I don't know the marketing game, but there's got to be a million opportunities out there to sell the internet and attract advertisers. And I wouldn't minimize the cost savings that a newspaper could realize by eliminating the paper edition (which is getting more expensive each year, thus the shrinking of the broadsheet to smaller and smaller sizes that you see taking place everywhere), shutting down printing presses and eliminating delivery trucks, etc. The shift is inevitable, I think. It's a matter of managing it in way that benefits your business -- the news business. Then maybe the LAT can afford to rehire a jazz critic. ... Maybe.

Yeah, I agree. But what we're really talking about here is the method of delivery. By eliminating the costly print edition and going 100 % online, your local newspaper may (will, eventually) make more money and thus be able to hire more reporters, cover more events -- in short, become more relevant. I'm all for print, believe me. I'm also all for saving jobs, and packaging and delivering the news in the way that people and technology demand -- and that means digitally, whether online, over your cell phone, on TV, on your PDA -- whatever. Paper as a method of delivery is a technology that is becoming too costly, slow and irrelevant. Newspapers will more and more become promotional devices steering people to the internet. Want complete stock listings? Go to our internet site. Want to see video of that controversial town hall meeting from last night? Our internet site has it. And don't forget to leave your comments. Plus, direct email links to all the town councilmen and women. More relevant, more immediate, more participatory ... maybe even more democratic. My glass is half full.

Is there a definitive camera angle of the base running on this play? I haven't seen one yet that shows Bartlett rounding third -- whether he hesitated or was going all the way; what the third base coach was doing. That might put Utley's play in a little better perspective. If they didn't have a camera on third base, Fox screwed up royally. I've yet to see that shot. Thank goodness they captured the reactions of every single individual in the stadium at the final out though ...

Maybe there will continue to be a market for local papers in more rural areas long after the big metro dailies go digital. That would be nice.

I think so. We're talking decades, not years, I think. But the percentage of revenues from print vs. OL will continue to shift until it is no longer economically feasible to print a paper and deliver it to your doorstep, particularly if you're the only one on your street who's getting it.

What the? Music critics?

Well then, Paps, quit your job or change your work schedule. Live chat is simply too important to miss, with many significant and timely issues discussed in depth. We also make silly pictures from the icons. You can bet I'll be considering your advice quite seriously at some point each and every Friday, aka: the night from hell. ...

It's not Friday night. . Yeah. Just popped in on the off chance .... Always working Friday nights this time of year.

I stumbled into that chat room last night and it was empty. Not a soul in sight.

I would argue that people who rely on their local newspaper as their lone source of information are already at a severe disadvantage in the information age. In any case, the whole thing is driven by advertising, as we all know, and advertisers don't care too much about the elderly or people who can't afford internet access, certainly. The elderly will die off and young people simply do not read daily newspapers. They go online. Online is where the eyeballs are. () () The cost of printing and delivering newspapers is considerable and growing. The efficiencies realized by simply going online (both cost efficiencies and in terms increased flexibility in gathering and packaging the news) will be tremendous, once advertisers hit that tipping point. The NYT will someday be online only, I'm certain. They and other news organizations will be healthier for it, and will deliver a much more useful and compelling product. ... One would hope, anyways. IMO