clifford_thornton

Yes.

Fascinating 1965 interview with Don Byas. Thanks to user "caravan" for the link. Heavy. https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc983758/m1/#track/1

Huh. Missed the original thread but I too found a sealed original some time ago. It's a really nice record. Recommended.

Just picked up a beautiful French Vogue LP edition of this for ten bucks today. Superb.

Michael Naura -- Vanessa -- (ECM, GER)

bummer! sad to hear that news.

"the choice of performers that are really able to intermingle all of these elements" seems like a large part of this gambit to me also. Bill Dixon related to me a story of workshopping a piece with the Jazz Composers' Orchestra (I think this is also in Dixonia), where all these top JCO players were unable to get through the material correctly but Bill's right-hand saxophonist, Stephen Horenstein, who was then an unknown in NYC creative music circles, was able to navigate the charts and play his solos with the integrity and purity that the music required. Bill also related to me that he felt his early work relied too much on written notes and very didactic situations, and it wasn't until he wrote less and let the musicians do what they did, that he felt his pieces did exactly what he wanted. That said, hearing Metamorphoses 1962-1966 and the pieces for the Orchestra of the University of the Streets (the latter were partly graphically scored), there's a very healthy and flexible conversation going on within arched structures.

Syd Barrett -- Barrett -- (Harvest, UK EMI 70s pressing)

wow, wish I could read French !

yep, the whole band is wonderful.

to the point of the original list, such as one might try to define it, I would think of that music as inside-outside. Most of the records Paul mentioned I have and can vouch that they fit this description in varying ways. more: Bill Dixon-Archie Shepp -- Quartet -- (Savoy) Bill Dixon 7-tette/The New York Contemporary Five -- (Savoy) Don Friedman -- Metamorphosis -- (Prestige) Grachan Moncur III -- New Africa -- (BYG) Peter Lemer -- Local Colour -- (ESP)

ha! now, Nathan Davis -- Rules of Freedom -- (Polydor, GER)

New York Art Quartet -- Mohawk -- (Fontana) Ted Curson -- Tears for Dolphy and Urge -- (Fontana) Ric Colbeck -- The Sun Is Coming Up -- (Fontana) Alan Shorter -- Orgasm -- (Verve) Ed Curran -- Elysa -- (Savoy) Jym Young's San Francisco Avant-garde -- Puzzle Box -- (International Polydor) Karl Berger -- Quartet -- (ESP) Clifford Thornton -- Freedom & Unity -- (Third World) Chris McGregor -- Very Urgent -- (Polydor) The New York Contemporary Five -- Vol. 1 & 2 -- (Sonet) Steve Lacy -- Disposability -- (VIK) Carsten Meinert -- To You -- (M.S./Spectator) Bernt Rosengren -- Stockholm Dues -- (Columbia) Gilbert Holmström -- Utan Misstankar -- (Megafon) Barney Wilen -- Zodiac -- (Vogue) François Tusques -- Free Jazz -- (Mouloudji) Albert Mangelsdorff -- Now Jazz Ramwong -- (CBS Germany) Manfred Schoof -- Voices -- (CBS Germany) Irène Schweizer -- Early Tapes -- (FMP)

Phill Musra -- The Creator Spaces -- (Intex, US original)

Ooh, nice!

Bummer, but man what a legacy.

Yes.

Keith Tippett/Louis Moholo-Moholo -- No Gossip -- (FMP/SAJ, GER)

According to Nate Chinen she has passed.

Damn, that is too bad. Great player.

Paul Flaherty/Froc Filipetti/Bil Walach -- Trinity Symphony -- (no label, private US pressing)

Getz Stuff -- haha!

aha. gotcha.

well, there is a second LP entitled Zoot at Ronnie Scott's on Fontana, released earlier in the 60s. So you could conceivably happen upon a copy of that and avoid the grey market CD...

Cookin' is a nice session indeed.